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How A.B. Yehoshua lost his crowd

The title was promising and so were the panelists. "The Future of the Past: What will become of the Jewish people?" moderated by Ted Koppel and with the participation of the Cynthia Ozick, Rabbi Adin Steinzaltz, Leon Wieseltier, and Israeli author A.B. Yehoshua. It was the first session of the American Jewish Committee's Centennial symposium, and what a disastrous evening it was.

The blame goes first and foremost to the annoyingly impolite Yehoshua. Taking over the dialog with a simplistic (and quite old-fashioned) message of ultra-Zionism - he was such a disruptive participant as to dismantle the whole discussion. For a while, I thought the angry Wieseltier was going to punch him - but he chose a different path of protestation and just stopped talking altogether.

The crowed got angry, too. In the busses heading back to their hotels, participants were talking about Yehoshua in words unfit to print. So much so that this morning, AJC's Executive Director David Harris felt a need to comment on the evening's events. Yehoshua, he said, was "passionate" and was a "expressing classic Zionist" point of view. However, Harris added, he "didn't win many friends to his cause" - and believe me, this is the understatement of the year.

So what was Yehoshua saying that got everybody so annoyed? He said that the only way to be a Jew is to live in Israel - well, not a very original thought, nor a new one. So it was not exactly what he said, but more the way he chose to do it - the arrogant, dismissive, way in which he framed his arguments, and even more so, the fact that he didn't let the discussion to move forward.

Koppel looked simply stunned.

Late at night, when I got home, I went over my notes to find something worth writing about - some conclusions one can make of such an evening - and here is what I came up with. More fragments than real conclusion:

Loyalty

The most astonishing thing that was said in this evening was a statement by Ozick, who dared to utter the D word: "I have a dual loyalty," she said, to the U.S. and to Israel. Later, she tried to clarify. I wish I could have had a thousand loyalties, she said, but one can only find within himself enough passion as to have one or two - in her case two. To the inquisitorial Koppel, trying to understand what she will do if the two countries will some day have a difference of interests she had a vague - though interesting - answer. She just thinks - and I'm paraphrasing here - that it can't happen. That her two beloved countries will not go in a direction that will force her to choose.

Anti-Semitism

The best one-liner of the evening belongs to Wieseltier (when he was still participating). Ozick - as to make a point about the possibility of anti-Semitism in the U.S. - was bringing up the Walt-Mersheimer study, a topic without which no real discussion of the Jewish people can take place these days. The study, said Ozick, frightens me. And Wieseltier gave her an answer to be remembered: "I will take Walt-Mersheimer over the Kishinev pogroms any day."

Judaism

A couple of weeks ago I attended the Jewish Funders Network conference in Denver, and wrote about it extensively. The conference's title, "Plug and Play Judaism," referred to the way in which young Generation Y Jews deal with their Jewish identity. It was meant in a positive way - as a new means via which to connect to these youngsters. (Read "I met happy Jews" here).

But yesterday, plug and play Judaism was used in a derogatory way by Yehoshua. What kind of Judaism is it, he asked. "You're just playing - plug and play." He argued that the only way to be a "real" Jew is by exercising power, making decisions, in a complete manner - that is, in Israel, where every decision you make is necessarily, to some extent "Jewish." And if you try to pinpoint the ongoing argument of the evening, this is what it was all about.

Yehoshua was willing to talk only about Judaism in Israel - Wieseltier tried to offer the "portability of Judaism." An idea that is not only about place and state - but bigger (one can't suspect that Wieseltier is not supportive enough of Israel - he just wanted to emphasize the other alternatives). Yehoshua can think whatever he wants about his own idea of Judaism, but the one Wieseltier was trying to talk about is the one the crowd wanted to discuss, as it is the one most relevant to them.

Israel

More than anything else, this evening was somewhat sad, as it showed the huge gap between Israel and the Jewish Diaspora. The problem, I must admit, rests mostly with Israelis, who do not understand (well, I'm generalizing here, many Israelis do understand) the extent to which the North American Jewish world is now a world to itself. They don't comprehend the possibility of a "Jewish Renaissance" here that is mostly not about Israel - and that it is in Israel's interest to be a part of, and not the other way around.

Yesterday, I wrote a piece about the Fifth Jew, for which I got plenty of attention from (mostly angry) readers. (Read the article, the blog that followed, and some reactions here). They weren't satisfied with the comment I made at the end of it: "Because the fifth Jew, to put it rather bluntly, is not only less 'Israeli,' but also less Jewish."

Today, let me make a complementary point that might be as inflammatory to my Israeli readers, but in which I believe as much: If the Israeli Jew does not find a way to better connect with Diaspora Jewry, it will not only make him less of a "Jew" - but also a lesser "Israeli."

  1.   Yehoshua 20:42  |  Choni 02/05/06
  2.   A bit too happy 21:36  |  Aaron Levitt 02/05/06
  3.   THE ARTICLE ON A. B. YEHOSHUA BY ROSNER 22:29  |  Yitzhak Kalet 02/05/06
  4.   Greedy bastards 01:09  |  Zylvane 03/05/06
  5.   The limits of egoism personal and collective 04:52  |  Rabbi David Hoffman 03/05/06
  6.   Thank you Zylvane 04:57  |  Goy 03/05/06
  7.   Dual Loyalties 10:28  |  scribe 03/05/06
  8.   reply to Yitzhak Kalet 10:31  |  scribe 03/05/06
  9.   AB Yehoshua`s plaint 10:39  |  Zev Davis 03/05/06
  10.   AB Yehoshua - simply boring already 14:08  |  Shmuel 03/05/06
  11.   reply to scribe from kalet 15:34  |  YITZHAK KALET 03/05/06
  12.   I can be Jewish in US because Israel exists 15:38  |  Susan 03/05/06
  13.   D-word 17:51  |  sh 03/05/06
  14.   P.S. Invite Sobol next time, or Etgar Keret 17:58  |  sh 03/05/06
  15.   Jewish renaissance - in Israel and Diaspora! 21:02  |  Zvi Berger 03/05/06
  16.   Yehoshua has always been rude and misunderstood Diaspora Jewry 21:04  |  Shalom Freedman 03/05/06
  17.   Greenberg, Hartman, Wiesel, Podhoretz, Riskin 21:11  |  Shalom Freedman 03/05/06
  18.   #17 ROSNER AB YEHOSHUA 22:39  |  k444 03/05/06
  19.   diaspora 06:52  |  hi 04/05/06
  20.   Two sides of the same blank coin 08:40  |  Joe Jew 04/05/06
  21.   TRUTH 11:19  |  CHONI 04/05/06
  22.   Yehoshua 12:17  |  Oleh vatik 04/05/06
  23.   Yehoshua has a single Channel to Judaism 14:48  |  Jay A Friedman 04/05/06
  24.   A ffraudulent panel 02:27  |  eliezer 05/05/06
  25.   Rosner (and the crowd) did not understand ABY, and 06:57  |  AA 05/05/06
  26.   Yehoshua and his views 10:27  |  z 05/05/06
  27.   No similarity 13:08  |  z 05/05/06
  28.   IN HIS NONSENSE - THERE`S AN ELEMENT OF SENSE 13:54  |  Jay A Friedman 05/05/06
  29.   The ignoramus Yehoshua 16:15  |  Gordon Shifman 05/05/06
  30.   Yehoshua and the Problem with Zionism 16:57  |  CHGODMK 05/05/06
  31.   A. B. Yehoshua: Israel vs. Diaspora 21:22  |  Iris 06/05/06
  32.   lost generation 21:54  |  j 06/05/06
  33.   A.B. Yehoshua, Disciple of Ben-Gurion 02:41  |  Shmuel Avigdor 07/05/06
  34.   Right, Rude and Unnecessary 06:46  |  Rabbi David Hoffman 07/05/06
  35.   left right 09:22  |  what do you expect 07/05/06
  36.   To Rabbi David Hoffman 14:18  |  CHGODMK 07/05/06
  37.   To the Americans who feel misunderstood 16:23  |  Ehud 07/05/06
  38.   To J (lost generation) 16:52  |  Ehud 07/05/06
  39.   Ehud 17:05  |  CHGODMK 07/05/06
  40.   To CHGODMK 17:33  |  Ehud 07/05/06
  41.   What about the Israelies themselves? 22:16  |  ARTH 07/05/06
  42.   to Rabbi David Hoffman #34 01:23  |  Arn 08/05/06
  43.   Actually Ehud... 02:48  |  CHGODMK 08/05/06
  44.   Diaspora vs. Israeli Jews 03:53  |  Judith 08/05/06
  45.   My apologies 12:21  |  Rabbi David Hoffman 08/05/06
  46.   CHGODMK 12:27  |  Ehud 08/05/06
  47.   Ehud: feeling jew in Israel 13:13  |  Paul 08/05/06
  48.   Paul 15:17  |  Ehud 08/05/06
  49.   completely agree with Rosner`s final words 16:06  |  Michal 08/05/06
  50.   Ehud: What I mean 17:47  |  Paul 08/05/06
  51.   To #4 Zylvane 01:04  |  Emmanuel Tannenbaum 09/05/06
  52.   Paul 13:43  |  Ehud 09/05/06
  53.   Yohoshua 17:36  |  Anne 15/11/06
  54.   Chas v`shalom the crowd may lose Yehoshua 17:10  |  West Coast Jew 20/11/06
  55.   Yehoshua the Blimp 14:14  |  David 04/07/08
  56.   If You Knew Susan 14:30  |  Avraham 04/07/08
  57.   Dual Loyalty 20:59  |  Jay 07/07/08


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