Last update - 00:00 28/01/2008
PM: Delay talks on Jerusalem to avoid derailing peace process
By <a href="mailto:barakravid80@gmail.com" class="tUbl2">Barak Ravid</a> and Yair Ettinger, Haaretz Correspondents
Tags: Israel , peace process
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Monday that discussion over the future of Jerusalem should be held off until a later phase in negotiations with the Palestinians, to avoid the risk of derailing peace talks.
"The topic of Jerusalem is very sensitive in this regard," the prime minister told a Kadima faction meeting. "it is preferable to begin with subjects where there is a chance to reach understandings than to open with matters that have high initial opposition."
Olmert told Kadima members, "the negotiations will cover all the pending issues, but not necessarily with the same intensity. It's better to start with issues on which the gap between the two sides is not that wide."
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Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said Monday in response to the suggestion that "all contentious questions were on the table, and that the Palestinians don't exclude any issue."
Meanwhile, a senior political source Sunday that the prime ministers is also concerned that talks on Jerusalem have the potential of breaking up the coalition, considering that the ultra-Orthodox Shas party has threatened on numerous occasions to leave the government if the topic is mentioned in negotiations.
"It is obvious to him how a solution to the question of the borders and the refugees would look like, and that it would more or less be in line with proposals that have been raised in the past," the source noted.
"On the other hand, on the question of Jerusalem, he [the prime minister] has many doubts and he is not inclined to adopt any of the solutions or ideas that have been raised in previous negotiations."
Paris talks
The question of Jerusalem was raised during talks held by Foreign Ministry Director General Aaron Abramovich in Paris a week ago.
Abramovich met with Jean-David Levitte, adviser to French President Nicolas Sarkozy on foreign affairs, and with other senior French Foreign Ministry officials, briefing them on the progress in the negotiations.
Haaretz has learned that the Abramovich told the French officials that it is highly likely that that the negotiations on Jerusalem will have to be postponed because of the domestic political crisis that they might trigger.
Abramovich last night denied having raised domestic political concerns in the matter of Jerusalem during his talks in Paris.
It also appears that U.S. President George W. Bush supports postponing talks on Jerusalem until the end of the negotiations. During his visit to Israel and the Palestinian Authority two weeks ago, Bush released a statement in which he describes how he views progress in the negotiations. According to the U.S. leader, Jerusalem is "a difficult matter," politically and religiously for both sides, and describes a solution to the issue as the most complicated challenge of the process.
The political challenges on the issue of Jerusalem focus on Shas, even though sources in Olmert's office say that "the matter for Shas is not the discussion on Jerusalem but its final outcome."
However, Shas' Council of Torah Sages met Sunday to discuss the party's red lines on negotiations with the Palestinians and decided that "the minute they begin talking on Jerusalem, Shas will immediately leave the government."
Shas leader Eli Yishai briefed the council on his latest talks with the prime minister on the negotiations with the Palestinians, and said that he had been promised "there would be no freeze to construction in Jerusalem, Ma'aleh Adumim and Beitar [Ilit]."
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Likud urges Shas, Lieberman to quit gov't over PM's 'intention'
Shas escalates threat to quit Olmert gov't over Jerusalem talks
Yisrael Beiteinu leaves gov't over peace talks
1.
HERE IS A WONDERFUL SOLUTION FOR JERUSALEM :
HERE IS A WONDERFUL SOLUTION FOR JERUSALEM :
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MOE
28/01/08
2.
Olmert and Shas
Olmert and Shas
04:14
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Rabbi Yakov Lazaros
28/01/08
3.
Here is a solution to Jerusalem
Here is a solution to Jerusalem
04:16
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Jacob
28/01/08
4.
Why does Israel refuse to allow Palestine to exist?
Why does Israel refuse to allow Palestine to exist?
04:16
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POP
28/01/08
5.
No plan at all only.....
No plan at all only.....
05:31
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David
28/01/08
6.
They keep on talking about slahing the Holy Land
They keep on talking about slahing the Holy Land
06:06
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Joseph . E
28/01/08
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Shas`s attitude reminds me of when Menachem Begin at Camp David
Shas`s attitude reminds me of when Menachem Begin at Camp David
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Smadar
28/01/08
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OUR Jerusalem Will NEVER Be Divided Again
OUR Jerusalem Will NEVER Be Divided Again
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Yishai Kohen
28/01/08
9.
Moving around the Shas Ultimatum
Moving around the Shas Ultimatum
07:13
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Lemmings Hotline
28/01/08
10.
J`lem will be last topic on peace agenda
J`lem will be last topic on peace agenda
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thomas
28/01/08
11.
Salami talks to leave Jerusalem to at end (gives Shas "pikuach ne
Salami talks to leave Jerusalem to at end (gives Shas "pikuach ne
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Dr. Aaron Lerner
28/01/08
12.
Arab-Muslim World Collective Punishment
Arab-Muslim World Collective Punishment
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Joseph E . post 1
28/01/08
13.
Arab-Muslim World Collective Punishment
Arab-Muslim World Collective Punishment
07:48
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Joseph E . post 2
28/01/08
14.
Arab-Muslim World Collective Punishment
Arab-Muslim World Collective Punishment
07:49
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Joseph E . Post 3
28/01/08
15.
#5 "Why?". - because it is known that there will not be peace!
#5 "Why?". - because it is known that there will not be peace!
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redmike
28/01/08
16.
Do not hate...participate...!!
Do not hate...participate...!!
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Moses
28/01/08
17.
Zechariah`s Historical Prediction, Today`s Unravelling Situation
Zechariah`s Historical Prediction, Today`s Unravelling Situation
08:25
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Lavi
28/01/08
18.
Why do the Arabs want Jerusalem?
Why do the Arabs want Jerusalem?
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Hastaroth
28/01/08
19.
Mohamed Never Made Peace with The Jews , Even if the Qur`an
Mohamed Never Made Peace with The Jews , Even if the Qur`an
08:45
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Joseph . E
28/01/08
20.
Jerusalem is exclusively Jewish.
Jerusalem is exclusively Jewish.
09:04
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Harold Lane
28/01/08
21.
POP - Israel NEVER said don`t exist... but Jerusalem
POP - Israel NEVER said don`t exist... but Jerusalem
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viking
28/01/08
22.
Jerusalem `a Difficult Matter`?
Jerusalem `a Difficult Matter`?
09:46
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Theodore
28/01/08
23.
Post Traumatic Name Disorder : Olmert,
Post Traumatic Name Disorder : Olmert,
09:57
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Joseph . E
28/01/08
24.
I Won`t Trust the Safety Of My Child To The Olmert`s Politics
I Won`t Trust the Safety Of My Child To The Olmert`s Politics
10:08
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Joseph . E
28/01/08
25.
To MOE # 1 - Give BACK East Jerusalem to the Palestinians
To MOE # 1 - Give BACK East Jerusalem to the Palestinians
10:15
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Dolly
28/01/08
26.
Olmert is The Fifth Column Burning Down the House
Olmert is The Fifth Column Burning Down the House
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Joseph . E
28/01/08
27.
Kapoo Olmert and Gangs Are Demonizing Israel
Kapoo Olmert and Gangs Are Demonizing Israel
10:30
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Joseph . E
28/01/08
28.
#4 palestine exists pop in jordan since 1922
#4 palestine exists pop in jordan since 1922
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v hardman
28/01/08
29.
Don`t Like Holocaust , Don`t Make Holocaust
Don`t Like Holocaust , Don`t Make Holocaust
10:34
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Joseph . E
28/01/08
30.
J`lem should be the 1st, as well as the refugees problem.
J`lem should be the 1st, as well as the refugees problem.
10:34
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mary for jews
28/01/08
31.
#1,3
#1,3
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Fabio
28/01/08
32.
POP WHY does Hamas the government refuse to allow Israel to exist
POP WHY does Hamas the government refuse to allow Israel to exist
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PETER SM
28/01/08
33.
Jerusalem
Jerusalem
11:00
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Patrick Warner
28/01/08
34.
Israel has the upper hand to dilute the hatred
Israel has the upper hand to dilute the hatred
11:07
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thomas
28/01/08
35.
Jerusalem belongs to the World, not just Israelis or Palestinians
Jerusalem belongs to the World, not just Israelis or Palestinians
11:33
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Lev Bronstein
28/01/08
36.
To MOE # 1 - GIVE BACK East Jerusalem to the Palestinians
To MOE # 1 - GIVE BACK East Jerusalem to the Palestinians
11:47
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arrabella
28/01/08
37.
Arab Jerusalem
Arab Jerusalem
11:49
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Sam Diamond
28/01/08
38.
Jerusalem belongs to the World, not just Israelis or Palestinians
Jerusalem belongs to the World, not just Israelis or Palestinians
12:05
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thomas
28/01/08
39.
#34 lev from the pages of pravda needs to study more
#34 lev from the pages of pravda needs to study more
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v hardman
28/01/08
40.
Peter 31
Peter 31
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Guido
28/01/08
41.
let Jerusalem resident solve the problems
let Jerusalem resident solve the problems
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thomas
28/01/08
42.
let Jerusalem resident solve the problems
let Jerusalem resident solve the problems
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thomas
28/01/08
43.
Big mistake
Big mistake
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Meir
28/01/08
44.
THE FINAL STATUS OF EAST JERUSALEM
THE FINAL STATUS OF EAST JERUSALEM
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indrajaya
28/01/08
45.
To Sam Diamond # 36 - Arab Jerusalem....
To Sam Diamond # 36 - Arab Jerusalem....
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Dolly
28/01/08
46.
SAM DIAMOND 36 - Arab Jerusalem
SAM DIAMOND 36 - Arab Jerusalem
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Natasha
28/01/08
47.
Olmert is a Hopeless Case.....
Olmert is a Hopeless Case.....
14:07
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Dolly
28/01/08
48.
already decided #34
already decided #34
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stephen
28/01/08
49.
Smadar No 7
Smadar No 7
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Jackie
28/01/08
50.
GUIDO. Israel has changed since 1988.Why hasn`t Hamas?
GUIDO. Israel has changed since 1988.Why hasn`t Hamas?
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PETER SM
28/01/08
51.
One reason for not sharing
One reason for not sharing
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jackie
28/01/08
52.
Exit strategy
Exit strategy
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Frank
28/01/08
53.
Jerusalem should NOT be open for discussion
Jerusalem should NOT be open for discussion
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Brod
28/01/08
54.
Thomas of Huntington Beach
Thomas of Huntington Beach
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jackie
28/01/08
55.
Peter 48
Peter 48
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Guido
28/01/08
56.
saying that jlem is on the table while killing
saying that jlem is on the table while killing
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bozhidar balkas
28/01/08
57.
Jerusalem and the refugee issues will be last
Jerusalem and the refugee issues will be last
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Tosefta
28/01/08
58.
A Word from G-d
A Word from G-d
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Rozz
28/01/08
59.
IT NEEDS INTERNATIONAL SUPERVISION
IT NEEDS INTERNATIONAL SUPERVISION
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indrajaya
28/01/08
60.
So "right of return" and final borders.
So "right of return" and final borders.
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David II
28/01/08
61.
East Jerusalem should not be a Problem.
East Jerusalem should not be a Problem.
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Hamza
28/01/08
62.
Palestinians still trying to destroy Israel in phases
Palestinians still trying to destroy Israel in phases
17:05
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Gili
28/01/08
63.
It is certain that 1.500.000.000, will never
It is certain that 1.500.000.000, will never
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Mohamed Ali
28/01/08
64.
What Pals say about refugees more fateful than Jerusalem
What Pals say about refugees more fateful than Jerusalem
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Sam
28/01/08
65.
Is this what we get for taking care of the Jews ?
Is this what we get for taking care of the Jews ?
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Libnanee
28/01/08
66.
Joseph E´s worries
Joseph E´s worries
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perplexed
28/01/08
67.
But Olmert promised George Bush
But Olmert promised George Bush
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Sven-Goran
28/01/08
68.
Are we bring about our own extinction?
Are we bring about our own extinction?
17:32
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montgomery rosen
28/01/08
69.
When The Jews accepted Partition of PALESTINE.
When The Jews accepted Partition of PALESTINE.
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Lo Pin Cheung
28/01/08
70.
Joseph E., lastly
Joseph E., lastly
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perplexed
28/01/08
71.
Vote for Rudy Giuliani
Vote for Rudy Giuliani
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Gil
28/01/08
72.
JERUSALEM
JERUSALEM
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Shmuelshachor
28/01/08
73.
Any serious try to overcome the Arab Israeli dispute (yes, this
Any serious try to overcome the Arab Israeli dispute (yes, this
17:50
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Ruti
28/01/08
74.
Dolly #35
Dolly #35
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Space
28/01/08
75.
Jerusalem and the refugee issues will be last
Jerusalem and the refugee issues will be last
17:57
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Tosefta
28/01/08
76.
whose L?
whose L?
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montgomery rosen
28/01/08
77.
Jerusalem
Jerusalem
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G.L.
28/01/08
78.
#60 chinese cracker with wrong references
#60 chinese cracker with wrong references
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v hardman
28/01/08
79.
Hamza, not opposed to negotiations on
Hamza, not opposed to negotiations on
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JJ
28/01/08
80.
Meir #41
Meir #41
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Space
28/01/08
81.
Lo Pin, a good point
Lo Pin, a good point
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JJ
28/01/08
82.
For putting Jersalem on the agenga=Shas must quit
For putting Jersalem on the agenga=Shas must quit
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sam
28/01/08
83.
Libnanee-"Is this what we get for taking care of the Jews?"
Libnanee-"Is this what we get for taking care of the Jews?"
18:19
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Sam
28/01/08
84.
#57 Guide for the `perlexed`
#57 Guide for the `perlexed`
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examiner
28/01/08
85.
Lo Pin Cheung. That was then-this is now.
Lo Pin Cheung. That was then-this is now.
18:43
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Heimi
28/01/08
86.
#61 jj, The facts that the Wars, 48 .. 67
#61 jj, The facts that the Wars, 48 .. 67
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Hamza
28/01/08
87.
give the arabs the mousque
give the arabs the mousque
18:57
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Matah
28/01/08
88.
ok to postpone
ok to postpone
19:02
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michael
28/01/08
89.
Jerusalem and the refugee issues will be last
Jerusalem and the refugee issues will be last
19:02
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Tosefta
28/01/08
90.
Brod- on prophecies.#51
Brod- on prophecies.#51
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hubal
28/01/08
91.
SHAS IS THE ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!
SHAS IS THE ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!
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Yechiel the Dude
28/01/08
92.
JERUSALEM IS PALESTINE
JERUSALEM IS PALESTINE
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TrippleJump
28/01/08
93.
#1 - MOE
#1 - MOE
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MichaelF
28/01/08
94.
So start with settlements, borders, right of return.
So start with settlements, borders, right of return.
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Damien
28/01/08
95.
No peace in our time.
No peace in our time.
20:18
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Voice of Reason
28/01/08
96.
dream of zionists since at least 1850s
dream of zionists since at least 1850s
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bozhidar balkas
28/01/08
97.
MOE then gives us Mecca or Medina
MOE then gives us Mecca or Medina
20:30
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Avi
28/01/08
98.
# 57 perplexed
# 57 perplexed
20:31
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Joseph E . post 1
28/01/08
99.
# 57 perplexed
# 57 perplexed
20:32
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Joseph E . post 2
28/01/08
100.
Furthermore Rabbi
Furthermore Rabbi
20:37
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Avi
28/01/08
101.
Heres the talk about Jerusalem...
Heres the talk about Jerusalem...
21:08
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Scharker Yid
28/01/08
102.
Good luck Mr. Olmert
Good luck Mr. Olmert
21:12
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tadchase
28/01/08
103.
In 1965, there was no "occupation," yet the PLO`s Covenant still
In 1965, there was no "occupation," yet the PLO`s Covenant still
21:13
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Avi
28/01/08
104.
Avi, you are forgetting something
Avi, you are forgetting something
21:26
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Ibrahim
28/01/08
105.
"less sensative". Water, compensation, borders, refugees, ??
"less sensative". Water, compensation, borders, refugees, ??
21:56
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Bradley
28/01/08
106.
Ibrahim-"All THE LAND BELONGS TO THEM (JEWS) AND THEM ALONE"
Ibrahim-"All THE LAND BELONGS TO THEM (JEWS) AND THEM ALONE"
22:08
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Sam
28/01/08
107.
OK Ibrahim, Lets talk about 2008
OK Ibrahim, Lets talk about 2008
22:25
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Avi
28/01/08
108.
Where are you MOE I am waiting for your reply?
Where are you MOE I am waiting for your reply?
22:31
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Avi
28/01/08
109.
Let There be a City Wide Referendum on Jerusalem` Future
Let There be a City Wide Referendum on Jerusalem` Future
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Sandman
28/01/08
110.
on the remark: All the land belongs to them - referring to Israel
on the remark: All the land belongs to them - referring to Israel
22:50
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Avi
28/01/08
111.
Matah # 87 Good Idea--The Abu Simbal Solution
Matah # 87 Good Idea--The Abu Simbal Solution
23:13
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Jeff Northridge
28/01/08
112.
Avi, do you speak for the Israeli Gov and idf?
Avi, do you speak for the Israeli Gov and idf?
23:25
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Ibrahim
28/01/08
113.
UN Partition Plan 1947- Resolution 181
UN Partition Plan 1947- Resolution 181
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Sandman
28/01/08
114.
JOSEPH E. - replies - 2
JOSEPH E. - replies - 2
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perplexed
28/01/08
115.
The Right of return
The Right of return
23:52
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H
28/01/08
116.
#87 Examiner
#87 Examiner
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the perplexed Idiot
28/01/08
117.
Very interesting, Moe, #1
Very interesting, Moe, #1
23:55
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Polybios
28/01/08
118.
One must wonder...
One must wonder...
00:02
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Tenar
29/01/08
119.
Ibrahin-"a just solution to the refugee issue"
Ibrahin-"a just solution to the refugee issue"
00:08
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Sam
29/01/08
120.
You still dont get it Ibrahim
You still dont get it Ibrahim
00:09
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Avi
29/01/08
121.
GUIDO. A Hudna is respite for Arabs before the final offensive
GUIDO. A Hudna is respite for Arabs before the final offensive
00:14
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PETER SM
29/01/08
122.
#113 sandman from ann arbor is connor too ?
#113 sandman from ann arbor is connor too ?
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v hardman
29/01/08
123.
Avi. How high and mighty we are!
Avi. How high and mighty we are!
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examiner
29/01/08
124.
#122Victorpaul Harrisman blah blah 1922/1919
#122Victorpaul Harrisman blah blah 1922/1919
01:16
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Labhras
29/01/08
125.
guide for the perplexed 2 #116
guide for the perplexed 2 #116
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examiner
29/01/08
126.
#122 THE SAN REMO RESOLUTION reads
#122 THE SAN REMO RESOLUTION reads
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Sandman
29/01/08
127.
Avi and his "Heroic" IDF policeforce.
Avi and his "Heroic" IDF policeforce.
01:38
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Labhras
29/01/08
128.
Ibrahim "hold your horses cowboy"
Ibrahim "hold your horses cowboy"
01:43
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Danite
29/01/08
129.
# 65 Libnanee...so, do people owe you forever?
# 65 Libnanee...so, do people owe you forever?
01:48
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Lynn
29/01/08
130.
Guide for the perplexed 2 #116
Guide for the perplexed 2 #116
01:54
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examiner
29/01/08
131.
Sam , spare me the biggotry...
Sam , spare me the biggotry...
02:05
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Ibrahim
29/01/08
132.
Danite...
Danite...
02:06
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Ibrahim
29/01/08
133.
Avi, you leave out important facts...
Avi, you leave out important facts...
02:10
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Ibrahim
29/01/08
134.
# 112 Ibrahim...a just solution for ALL the refugees
# 112 Ibrahim...a just solution for ALL the refugees
02:24
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Lynn
29/01/08
135.
119 Sam and Ibrahim,israel was admitted to the UN in 1949
119 Sam and Ibrahim,israel was admitted to the UN in 1949
02:28
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lakshmi
29/01/08
136.
Re: 130 Obama, perplexed and....
Re: 130 Obama, perplexed and....
03:02
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David
29/01/08
137.
Ibrahim-Spare me the insults and show me the acceptance of Israel
Ibrahim-Spare me the insults and show me the acceptance of Israel
03:29
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Sam
29/01/08
138.
Lynn...
Lynn...
03:40
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Ibrahim
29/01/08
139.
Jerusalem for the Jews
Jerusalem for the Jews
03:46
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Nechama
29/01/08
140.
Dear Eli Yishai and Shas: Quit NOW! Help save Israel AND your car
Dear Eli Yishai and Shas: Quit NOW! Help save Israel AND your car
03:55
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Chaim
29/01/08
141.
Please, go not depose me!
Please, go not depose me!
03:59
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Mark Lincoln
29/01/08
142.
Refugee issue
Refugee issue
04:09
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joki
29/01/08
143.
Let Canada do its appointed job and deal with Pal refugees
Let Canada do its appointed job and deal with Pal refugees
04:12
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Sam
29/01/08
144.
# 138 Ibrahim...how many Jews do you think
# 138 Ibrahim...how many Jews do you think
04:19
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Lynn
29/01/08
145.
to Ibrahim
to Ibrahim
04:29
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joki
29/01/08
146.
The French President
The French President
07:37
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Lisa Javner
29/01/08
147.
LAKSHMI.UN GA assembly resolutions NOT binding. UNSCR 242 IS
LAKSHMI.UN GA assembly resolutions NOT binding. UNSCR 242 IS
08:11
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PETER SM
29/01/08
148.
Meanwhile.......
Meanwhile.......
08:34
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Johnboy
29/01/08
149.
Realism, humanism or politics.
Realism, humanism or politics.
08:56
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Harold Lane
29/01/08
150.
#126 stephen on jerusalem and the extent of the palestine mandate
#126 stephen on jerusalem and the extent of the palestine mandate
08:59
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v hardman
29/01/08
151.
GIVE ME HALF OF MECCA FIRST
GIVE ME HALF OF MECCA FIRST
12:57
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Petra
29/01/08
152.
147 Peter SM,the same GA that admitted israel to the UN has the
147 Peter SM,the same GA that admitted israel to the UN has the
13:49
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lakshmi
29/01/08
153.
Lynn...go on complicating things if you like
Lynn...go on complicating things if you like
15:12
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Ibrahim
29/01/08
154.
Joki....on the Quran
Joki....on the Quran
16:45
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Ibrahim
29/01/08
155.
how would I know Ibrahim
how would I know Ibrahim
17:57
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joki
29/01/08
156.
POP #4
POP #4
19:47
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Observer
29/01/08
157.
joki, and contrary to your assumption
joki, and contrary to your assumption
23:23
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Ibrahim
29/01/08
158.
#18 Hastaroth
#18 Hastaroth
04:23
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Observer
30/01/08
159.
Thomas in Huntington Beach
Thomas in Huntington Beach
04:33
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Observer
30/01/08
160.
Peter on hudna
Peter on hudna
04:41
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Observer
30/01/08
161.
There is no "peace process" without Jerusalem
There is no "peace process" without Jerusalem
07:39
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peacelover
18/02/08