Last update - 00:00 23/02/2007
Lest the sword slip from our hand
By Ze'ev Schiff
When Yaakov Peri stepped down as chief of the Shin Bet, in 1994, Jibril Rajoub, then head of Preventive Security Services in the West Bank, called Peri to express his sorrow. "This is a terrible blow to the security of the state!" said Rajoub. The state he was talking about was Israel. And the fact of the matter is that Rajoub, in his day, did work hard to prevent the second Intifada.
This same Jibril Rajoub has now appeared on television and shocked his Israeli acquaintances with the remark that in the end, the Palestinians will recover every inch of land between the river and the sea. Rajoub?s standing is no longer what it was, but this sudden, Hamas-style declaration undermines our trust in the statements made by so-called "moderate" Palestinians.
With all due respect to my Palestinian friends, I can only conclude from these remarks that we must shut our ears when the Palestinians scatter promises about wanting to live alongside Israel. It is not words that matter, but deeds, and deeds alone.
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Another shocking phenomenon emerges from the appalling account of former cabinet minister and senior Fatah official Sufian Abu Zaida, in an interview with Haaretz correspondent Avi Issacharoff (February 5). Abu Zaida described how his neighbor, a colonel in the PLO, and his nephew, were executed. First they were shot in the legs, and finally in the back, with the gunmen telling jokes while pulling the trigger. Before they shot the nephew, they tried to make him drink acid.
On a previous occasion, Abu Zaida's house was firebombed, and an attempt was made to kidnap his son. "Do you understand how much they hate us?" asked Abu Zaida. "The chances for peace with Israel are greater than the chances for peace between Hamas and Fatah."
Sheik Ra'ad Salah, head of the Northern branch of the Islamic Movement in Israel, should be reading this. In his fury over the work at the Mugrabi Gate, he repeatedly accused the Israelis of being "murderers." But Sheik Ra?ad knows, of course, what the whole world knows and can see on TV: Arabs in Iraq are brutally murdering other Arabs, most of them innocent. Sometimes they even kill them at prayer, and destroy mosques. Sheikh Ra'ad knows what members of the Islamic Movement in Algeria did to tens of thousands of citizens, including women and children, just a few years ago. But in his eyes, Israelis are the murderers.
There is only one conclusion, and Moshe Dayan already said it in his eulogy over the grave of Roi Rutenberg, who was murdered by Arabs from Gaza in the 1950s: "This is our life's choice: to be prepared and armed, strong and determined, lest the sword slip from our hand and our lives be cut down."
When ex-Mossad chief Ephraim Halevy says Israel doesn't need the recognition of Hamas, he is shifting the focus of the argument. He is getting into the fundamental, the moral and the diplomatic. The key issue here, and our primary concern, is the continuation of terror; today manifested in the continued rocket fire, the refusal to release Gilad Shalit, the attempts to carry out suicide bombings and the massive smuggling of arms. Bringing an end to these things constitutes part of the Quartet's demands.
Of course Israel must help Mahmoud Abbas, and through him, the suffering Palestinian people. But it cannot participate in a sneaky attempt by Hamas to use a moderate and positive-thinking man like Salam Fayad, who would have been the finance minister in a unity government, to put aid money into the hands of Hamas ministers, including those heading the movement's military wing.
Having a moderating force in the Gaza Strip and within the Palestinian Authority is in Israel's interest, but it is not enough. Israel must also insist that the Palestinians pass the critical test of reining in terror and fully abide by all agreements.
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my view to a t zeev schiff
my view to a t zeev schiff
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flashman
23/02/07
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our neighbours will make statements to please us
our neighbours will make statements to please us
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flashman
23/02/07
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EVEN A RAT WILL BITE
EVEN A RAT WILL BITE
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indrajaya
23/02/07
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a little foothold
a little foothold
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flashman
23/02/07
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jabril rajoub
jabril rajoub
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flashman
23/02/07
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the danger
the danger
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flashman
23/02/07
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"they tried to make him drink acid"
"they tried to make him drink acid"
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flashman
23/02/07
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What a whinge, again
What a whinge, again
09:23
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Marilyn
23/02/07
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and algeria and iraq and the continuing horrors
and algeria and iraq and the continuing horrors
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flashman
23/02/07
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"first they were shot in the legs"
"first they were shot in the legs"
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Cipora Julianna Kohn
23/02/07
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indrajaya the racist
indrajaya the racist
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tommy suharto
23/02/07
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Ze`ev Schiff - what a pious, odious, oily hypocrite!
Ze`ev Schiff - what a pious, odious, oily hypocrite!
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Clickfool
23/02/07
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Predictable
Predictable
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Nada
23/02/07
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How many dead had it costed before Shiff&Co "saw the light"?
How many dead had it costed before Shiff&Co "saw the light"?
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Absolute Sweden
23/02/07
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NO CHOICE BUT TO BE ARMED AND READY ??
NO CHOICE BUT TO BE ARMED AND READY ??
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Bill.
23/02/07
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More hypocritical fairy tales from Sussex #11
More hypocritical fairy tales from Sussex #11
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Jonathan S
23/02/07
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Deeds AND electrified fences on Palestinian land.
Deeds AND electrified fences on Palestinian land.
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Maureen Ann
23/02/07
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#8 marilyn
#8 marilyn
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duncan
23/02/07
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double standards
double standards
12:29
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René Fries
23/02/07
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Bill, take your medicine that`s a good boy
Bill, take your medicine that`s a good boy
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Marilyn
23/02/07
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Shiff sees light? He still thinks Israel has something in Abbas!
Shiff sees light? He still thinks Israel has something in Abbas!
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Pavel
23/02/07
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the jew hater clickfool
the jew hater clickfool
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yirmiyahu
23/02/07
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Pals are just accepting reality - 2 state solution is dead
Pals are just accepting reality - 2 state solution is dead
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SD
23/02/07
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clickfool if you hate bengladeshis
clickfool if you hate bengladeshis
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yirmi
23/02/07
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clickfool "starvation blocade"
clickfool "starvation blocade"
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yirmi
23/02/07
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clickfool if you are unable to show us the
clickfool if you are unable to show us the
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yirmi
23/02/07
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but clickfool`s sickening hypocrisy does not end there
but clickfool`s sickening hypocrisy does not end there
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yirmi
23/02/07
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TO MARILYN,MAUREEN ANN IN AUSTRALIA
TO MARILYN,MAUREEN ANN IN AUSTRALIA
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No Ordinary Prophet
23/02/07
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Palestinian "blood libels"....??
Palestinian "blood libels"....??
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Swiss (Dino)
23/02/07
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war to come
war to come
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SAM
23/02/07
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The Great Shock That Is Not
The Great Shock That Is Not
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CHGODMK
23/02/07
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How Do You?
How Do You?
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CHGODMK
23/02/07
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# 8 Marilyn - ignores the obvious
# 8 Marilyn - ignores the obvious
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ChanahS
23/02/07
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Little correction to my # 29
Little correction to my # 29
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Swiss (Dino)
23/02/07
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Tut, tut, Marilyn and Maureen Ann # 28
Tut, tut, Marilyn and Maureen Ann # 28
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Clickfool
23/02/07
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For Yirmiyaju # 22
For Yirmiyaju # 22
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Clickfool
23/02/07
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Marilyn # 8
Marilyn # 8
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Aliza
23/02/07
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A title which nullifies the conclusion
A title which nullifies the conclusion
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Tosefta
23/02/07
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Quartet foolish preconditions
Quartet foolish preconditions
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Tosefta
23/02/07
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Marilyn
Marilyn
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Tamtam
23/02/07
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Of course, but
Of course, but
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Mark Lincoln
23/02/07
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Israel must mightily defend itself...let the Palis take care of
Israel must mightily defend itself...let the Palis take care of
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The Equalizer
23/02/07
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Ze`ev Schiff - typical Zionist warmonger: HOW I WISH ....
Ze`ev Schiff - typical Zionist warmonger: HOW I WISH ....
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JACKAL
23/02/07
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A very sober look at reality!
A very sober look at reality!
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Giora Sedman
23/02/07
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It is not enough to have a sword in the hand
It is not enough to have a sword in the hand
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Boris
23/02/07
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Clicfool I agree with you 100%, you will keep them awake
Clicfool I agree with you 100%, you will keep them awake
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Clear as Water
23/02/07
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#4 and #17 - The girls
#4 and #17 - The girls
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Gadi Nagel
23/02/07
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A title which nullifies the conclusion
A title which nullifies the conclusion
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Tosefta
23/02/07
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To Marilyn
To Marilyn
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Awni
23/02/07
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Quartet foolish preconditions
Quartet foolish preconditions
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Tosefta
23/02/07
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#34 DOES REALITY PENETRATE TO TIBERIAS
#34 DOES REALITY PENETRATE TO TIBERIAS
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paul harris
23/02/07
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Jackal, so pitiful
Jackal, so pitiful
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bunny
23/02/07
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racist clickfool we know what you are
racist clickfool we know what you are
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yirmiyahu
23/02/07
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clickfool "thousands" really?
clickfool "thousands" really?
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yirmiyahu
23/02/07
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#34 swiss re palestinan teror
#34 swiss re palestinan teror
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duncan
23/02/07
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tosefta@cannedmessages.com
tosefta@cannedmessages.com
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flashman
23/02/07
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the only time tosefta listens is when he is doing the talking
the only time tosefta listens is when he is doing the talking
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flashman
23/02/07
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tosefta "why demand the palestinians recognise israel"
tosefta "why demand the palestinians recognise israel"
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flashman
23/02/07
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eagertosefta@cannedmessages.com
eagertosefta@cannedmessages.com
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flashman
23/02/07
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Marilyn re # 40 Tamtam
Marilyn re # 40 Tamtam
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ChanahS
23/02/07
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Everything is true but....
Everything is true but....
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Chick Corea
23/02/07
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Jackal # 43
Jackal # 43
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ChanahS
23/02/07
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Clickfool, your lies are masterful
Clickfool, your lies are masterful
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Allon
23/02/07
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Marilyn, how blind can you really be?
Marilyn, how blind can you really be?
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Allon
23/02/07
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Our verbally diarrhetic "flushman"; aka The Hydra
Our verbally diarrhetic "flushman"; aka The Hydra
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Tosefta
23/02/07
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tosefta "oy if the price doesn`t go down sharply
tosefta "oy if the price doesn`t go down sharply
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flashman
23/02/07
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tosefta and the "quartet conditions"
tosefta and the "quartet conditions"
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flashman
23/02/07
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# 55 duncan
# 55 duncan
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Swiss (Dino)
23/02/07
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tosefta "get rid of the occupation"
tosefta "get rid of the occupation"
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flashman
23/02/07
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So the Arabs must do the same Mr. Ze`ev
So the Arabs must do the same Mr. Ze`ev
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Abu Samra
23/02/07
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firmness before terrorism
firmness before terrorism
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Pablo Bastida
23/02/07
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tosefta "end the occupation"
tosefta "end the occupation"
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flashman
23/02/07
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the way forward is an exchange of land
the way forward is an exchange of land
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flashman
23/02/07
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# 29 Dino (Swiss). NOT ONLY IN PAERT DINO,BUT THROUGHOUT ,,,,
# 29 Dino (Swiss). NOT ONLY IN PAERT DINO,BUT THROUGHOUT ,,,,
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Kath`
23/02/07
75.
# 72 flashman
# 72 flashman
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Swiss (Dino)
23/02/07
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Abu Samra AKA khalid- Zeev is 59 years right
Abu Samra AKA khalid- Zeev is 59 years right
21:11
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Water is clear
23/02/07
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#70 Abu Samra
#70 Abu Samra
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Giora Sedman
23/02/07
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Pull out soon, peace is coming when you do so
Pull out soon, peace is coming when you do so
21:36
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Semone
23/02/07
79.
For Allon # 63
For Allon # 63
21:44
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Clickfool
23/02/07
80.
Sciff
Sciff
22:20
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Baruch
23/02/07
81.
# 74 Kath
# 74 Kath
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Swiss (Dino)
23/02/07
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predicatble: TO NADA
predicatble: TO NADA
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Phil
24/02/07
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My view to Zeev Schiff
My view to Zeev Schiff
00:12
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Ah
24/02/07
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Clickfool--what an apt name!
Clickfool--what an apt name!
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stephanie
24/02/07
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Clickfool from `Sussex`
Clickfool from `Sussex`
00:49
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Mihaeli
24/02/07
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The theme never went anywhere
The theme never went anywhere
01:41
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TonyL
24/02/07
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Men behind swords
Men behind swords
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Marcus Aurelius
24/02/07
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Swiss-Dino #75
Swiss-Dino #75
03:22
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Tosefta
24/02/07
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Old men`s armies?
Old men`s armies?
03:33
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Mark Lincoln
24/02/07
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#28 No Ordinary Prophet. Guess what...
#28 No Ordinary Prophet. Guess what...
04:02
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Maureen Ann
24/02/07
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Is Clickfool an anti-Semite?
Is Clickfool an anti-Semite?
04:42
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Diz
24/02/07
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Lest the Sword Fall?
Lest the Sword Fall?
06:19
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joel
24/02/07
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No peace is possible in our time
No peace is possible in our time
06:25
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Voice of Reason
24/02/07
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The Sword
The Sword
07:05
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Martin Kessler
24/02/07
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#72 flashman - end the occupation the same way the French did
#72 flashman - end the occupation the same way the French did
07:49
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dana
24/02/07
96.
Marilyn and Clickfool
Marilyn and Clickfool
09:22
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les
24/02/07
97.
# 88 Tosefta
# 88 Tosefta
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Swiss (Dino)
24/02/07
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#95 DANA REVISITS CLOUD CUCKOO LAND
#95 DANA REVISITS CLOUD CUCKOO LAND
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paul harris
24/02/07
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swiss your belief that a minority will not leave
swiss your belief that a minority will not leave
11:03
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flashman
24/02/07
100.
Guess what - got real response from Paul Harris#98
Guess what - got real response from Paul Harris#98
13:44
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dana
24/02/07
101.
# 100 dana
# 100 dana
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Swiss (Dino)
24/02/07
102.
# 99 flashman
# 99 flashman
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Swiss (Dino)
24/02/07
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We must also reign in our own right wing fanatics
We must also reign in our own right wing fanatics
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Merle
24/02/07
104.
# 49 Awni
# 49 Awni
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ChanahS
24/02/07
105.
Marilyn & Maureen in love
Marilyn & Maureen in love
14:56
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Chasaboy
24/02/07
106.
to dana in new york
to dana in new york
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nh
24/02/07
107.
to ah in usa
to ah in usa
15:05
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nh
24/02/07
108.
100 Dana
100 Dana
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chasaboy
24/02/07
109.
abbas is a joke
abbas is a joke
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alonitzafoni
24/02/07
110.
like i said yirmiyahu
like i said yirmiyahu
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alonitzafoni
24/02/07
111.
Israel will go down in infamy for its theft of Palestine
Israel will go down in infamy for its theft of Palestine
15:34
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Nick Ferriman
24/02/07
112.
#100 dana DE GAULLE IS NOT PRESIDENT OF ISRAEL
#100 dana DE GAULLE IS NOT PRESIDENT OF ISRAEL
15:36
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paul harris
24/02/07
113.
How to deal with Maale Adumim (Dana #95)
How to deal with Maale Adumim (Dana #95)
15:36
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Tosefta
24/02/07
114.
to SD
to SD
15:37
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alonitzafoni
24/02/07
115.
to tosefta
to tosefta
15:55
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alonitzafoni
24/02/07
116.
yirmiyahu #53
yirmiyahu #53
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alonitzafoni
24/02/07
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pablo bastida #71
pablo bastida #71
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alonitzafoni
24/02/07
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west bank
west bank
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alonitzafoni
24/02/07
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flashman
flashman
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alonitzafoni
24/02/07
120.
swiss dino #68
swiss dino #68
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alonitzafoni
24/02/07
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clickfool sussex posts have become dried up and bitter!
clickfool sussex posts have become dried up and bitter!
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Bob
24/02/07
122.
swiss gaza ideology versus jewish ancestral lands ideology
swiss gaza ideology versus jewish ancestral lands ideology
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flashman
24/02/07
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to Baruch
to Baruch
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alonitzafoni
24/02/07
124.
tosefta on selling the homes of the residents
tosefta on selling the homes of the residents
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flashman
24/02/07
125.
dana "i would have prescribed a heavy dose
dana "i would have prescribed a heavy dose
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judith ackerman
24/02/07
126.
swiss dino 81
swiss dino 81
16:42
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which ones???
24/02/07
127.
dana and the west bank and colonialists
dana and the west bank and colonialists
16:45
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yirmiyahu
24/02/07
128.
# 81 Swiss (Dino) CORRECTION............
# 81 Swiss (Dino) CORRECTION............
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Kath`
24/02/07
129.
#102 WITHOUT THEM MERLE THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO ISRAEL
#102 WITHOUT THEM MERLE THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO ISRAEL
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paul harris
24/02/07
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dana "offer the jews a free passage to the united
dana "offer the jews a free passage to the united
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flashman
24/02/07
131.
dana "we will welcome them here"
dana "we will welcome them here"
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flashman
24/02/07
132.
dana
dana
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alonitzafoni
24/02/07
133.
clickfool and marilyn???
clickfool and marilyn???
16:58
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alonitzafoni
24/02/07
134.
bob and clickfool
bob and clickfool
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harzion
24/02/07
135.
bob you must consider the feelings of the poor wretch
bob you must consider the feelings of the poor wretch
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harzion
24/02/07
136.
# 102 Swiss (Dino)re:flashman etc,etc..........
# 102 Swiss (Dino)re:flashman etc,etc..........
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Kath`
24/02/07
137.
# 122 flashman
# 122 flashman
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Swiss (Dino)
24/02/07
138.
# 102 Swiss (Dino) re:flashman
# 102 Swiss (Dino) re:flashman
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Kath`
24/02/07
139.
# 128 Kath
# 128 Kath
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Swiss (Dino)
24/02/07
140.
to Marilyn #8
to Marilyn #8
18:13
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bo
24/02/07
141.
not bigger guns Marilyn
not bigger guns Marilyn
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CRAZY HORSE
24/02/07
142.
about 133 - clickfool and Marilyn
about 133 - clickfool and Marilyn
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The Judge
24/02/07
143.
Lie down and die
Lie down and die
18:23
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Zionist Pig
24/02/07
144.
We can say the same for Iran
We can say the same for Iran
18:33
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Guss
24/02/07
145.
swiss
swiss
18:58
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flashman
24/02/07
146.
LEBANON
LEBANON
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NAD
24/02/07
147.
# 136 Kath
# 136 Kath
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Swiss (Dino)
24/02/07
148.
Haaretz. Please put out #81 with #`97 Swiss (Dino) re: Tosefta...
Haaretz. Please put out #81 with #`97 Swiss (Dino) re: Tosefta...
19:51
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Kath`
24/02/07
149.
# 120 alonitzafoni
# 120 alonitzafoni
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Swiss (Dino)
24/02/07
150.
# 147 Swiss (Dino). YOU MAY BE RIGHT,BUT......
# 147 Swiss (Dino). YOU MAY BE RIGHT,BUT......
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Kath`
24/02/07
151.
# 145 flashman
# 145 flashman
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Swiss (Dino)
24/02/07
152.
Lest the sword slip
Lest the sword slip
21:02
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Mitch Cohen
24/02/07
153.
It is not solely depended on the sword anymore
It is not solely depended on the sword anymore
21:37
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TonyL
24/02/07
154.
Sorry Kath, but it`s time for.......
Sorry Kath, but it`s time for.......
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Swiss (Dino)
24/02/07
155.
# 146 NAD...LEBANON..........I AGREE UP TO A POINT,,,,,,,,,
# 146 NAD...LEBANON..........I AGREE UP TO A POINT,,,,,,,,,
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Kath`
24/02/07
156.
What should we believe??
What should we believe??
00:08
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Larry
25/02/07
157.
DEEDS SPEAK! DEEDS of Iranian stooge Hamasdon`t give no hope
DEEDS SPEAK! DEEDS of Iranian stooge Hamasdon`t give no hope
01:49
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Vittorio
25/02/07
158.
flashman - stop being so lazy with the one-liners
flashman - stop being so lazy with the one-liners
02:17
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dana
25/02/07
159.
#101 swiss (dino) - on intellectual rearmanent - hope not wmd`s
#101 swiss (dino) - on intellectual rearmanent - hope not wmd`s
02:43
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dana
25/02/07
160.
nh - sorry - analogy still holds
nh - sorry - analogy still holds
02:56
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dana
25/02/07
161.
#108 chasaboy -this nonsense has long since been debanked
#108 chasaboy -this nonsense has long since been debanked
03:41
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dana
25/02/07
162.
#113 Tosefta - that is a partial solution
#113 Tosefta - that is a partial solution
03:52
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dana
25/02/07
163.
161 DANA dear!
161 DANA dear!
09:16
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chasaboy
25/02/07
164.
Chasaboy - Oy Vayy - we agree!!!
Chasaboy - Oy Vayy - we agree!!!
10:20
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dana
25/02/07