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To attack or not to attack?
By Yossi Melman

An American in Iran? Sounds wild. A former senior U.S. administration official? Can't be. So what would you say about the fact that Iran, an evil country according to Bush, hosted such an individual at the uranium conversion plant in Isfahan, at one of the cornerstones of the Iranian nuclear program? In March 2006, at the height of the nuclear crisis and a month after the matter was referred to the United Nations Security Council, Dr. Gary Samore had the opportunity to tour the facility, in which the first stage of the uranium enrichment process takes place.

"I wasn't particularly impressed by their capabilities. The Iranians don't have a reliable manufacturing capability," he says during a break in the Herzliya Conference at the Daniel Hotel, where he participated in a panel on "Coping with a Nuclearizing Iran: Options for Prevention and Deterrence."

Samore is a vice president at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York, and his name has been mentioned recently as a candidate for a senior position in the next Democratic administration, if it comes to be. Samore was a member of the National Security Council during the Clinton administration, and the president's special envoy on proliferation issues.
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In that capacity, he launched a vigorous campaign against North Korea (which was unsuccessful) to prevent Pyongyang from spreading missiles and missile technology to the Middle East and particularly Iran. He also launched a campaign against Russia (which was partially successful) to prevent Russia from assisting the Iranian nuclear program. Samore visited Moscow numerous times during that period, met with members of the Atomic Energy Organizations of Russia, with senior officials of the Federal Security Service there, provided them with intelligence on Russian companies and research institutions that collaborated with Iran - he, in return, received a promise that the matter would be dealt with. Sometimes the work really did pay off, and the Russian authorities opened an investigation; but sometimes they preferred to turn a blind eye.

Samore was also responsible for the efforts to persuade China not to transfer nuclear technology to Iran. The visit less than a year ago to Isfahan was, as far as he was concerned, a kind of closing of the circle: The plans to build a uranium conversion facility (in which natural uranium undergoes chemical treatment and becomes gaseous uranium) in Isfahan were sold to Iran by China. That was in 1991. China also signed a contract for around half a billion dollars to build the plant, but "we exerted heavy pressure on China and they cancelled it in 1997-98," stresses Samore.

Why did China cave in to the pressure?

"The Chinese reached the conclusion that Iran was trying to obtain nuclear weapons and didn't want to help them to do so; a nuclear armed Iran is contrary to China's interests. They also realized that the connection with Iran would affect their relationship with the United States. Moreover we promised them that, in return, we would supply them with our advanced nuclear power reactor." But despite the cancellation of the contract (which caused financial loss to China, which had to return the advance payment to Iran), the Iranians managed to build the plant in Isfahan on their own by using the Chinese blueprints. "From what I saw in Isfahan, I have the impression that most of the construction is home-grown, although here and there, there is also European-made equipment," says Samore.

'There won't be a bomb'

But the visit to Isfahan was not the only surprise awaiting the American expert. He was also briefed by representatives of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran and met with former senior officials involved in the nuclear program, including Hassan Ruhani, who was the secretary of the Supreme National Security Council during the term of the previous president, Mohammed Khatami. He heard half-hearted affirmation that Iran was not settling only for a civilian nuclear program with peaceful aims. If what he heard is correct, it stands in sharp contrast to Iran's public declarations. "They told me, listen, we live in a dangerous neighborhood. We are surrounded by neighbors with nuclear arms: Pakistan, India, Israel; we are threatened. And therefore we need to have a nuclear option; believe us, we will not produce a bomb."

Samore is not naive. He does not really believe the Iranians. It is clear to him that they are striving to obtain nuclear arms. The question is only do they have the capability? This question is particularly essential because it would determine the decision of whether to attack Iran to disrupt its nuclear program and when.

Regarding capability, based on what he saw, heard and on his knowledge, he estimates that Iran has encountered quite a few difficulties in its efforts to master uranium enrichment technologies. Yet, he is not willing to take the risk of estimating when Iran would have nuclear weapons, if at all. The biggest mystery is whether Iran has a secret program parallel to its official nuclear program. Samore believes that, pending any dramatic surprises, Iran will not have nuclear weapons in the coming years. His assessment contradicts Israeli intelligence estimates, which talks about a "technological threshold" that Iran will probably cross this year and of Iran being able to produce its first bomb in two to three years.

Do you think Israel's leaders and officials are alarmists?

"Yes, and I can also understand them. The U.S. is far away, Europe is complacent and Russia may oppose the idea of nuclear weapons in Iran, but doesn't see it as the end of the world. Clearly Israel is the most worried. Both because of President Ahmadinejad's declarations and because of the Holocaust. On has to take into account that nuclear weapons in Iran will affect Israel's nuclear monopoly."

Dr. Robert Einhorn, also has difficulty estimating when Iran will be able to produce nuclear weapons. Einhorn, like Samore, dealt with proliferation issues in the Clinton administration and early in the Bush administration. Samore was in the White House and Einhorn in the State Department, where he reached served as assistant to the secretary of state. Today he is a senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. He, too, is mentioned as a candidate for a senior post in the next administration if the Democrats win the presidential election in 2008.

Like Samore, he does not rule out the military option, but rather feels that it has to be the last resort. Before then, all the other options of international pressure along with sanctions against Iran need to be exhausted.

"The military option should be discussed without emotions," he said in an interview during the Herzliya Conference. "We need to consider a military strike in terms of cost and benefits. It has to be considered whether it is possible to strike all the targets, whether Iran has alternative sites, how long will it take Iran to repair the damage and regenerate the program. If the answer is 10 years, then it would be foolish of the president, any president, Republican or Democratic, not to initiate an attack. But if a military strike will delay the Iranian program for only 10 months, then I'm not sure it's worthwhile."

Rational consideration

Perhaps it is a matter of ideology, or perhaps it is a matter of nature, but contrary to his two colleagues, Richard Perle, another participant in the Herzliya discussion, has no doubt that tough steps must be taken against Iran. "I have no doubt," he stresses, "that if it becomes apparent to President Bush that during his term Iran will achieve nuclear weapons, he will not hesitate to order a strike." Perle, was an assistant to then-secretary of defense Caspar Weinberger in the Reagan administration, a consultant in then-president George H. Bush's administration, and is an old friend of Vice President Dick Cheney and a pillar of the neo-conservatives. "Don't get me wrong," he hurriedly adds, "what I'm saying about President Bush and Iran does not stem from any knowledge, I didn't discuss this with him; it is just an assessment based on my acquaintance with him." (Samore feels that Bush will not be asked to decide, because Iran will not acquire such capabilities during his term.)

If Bush orders a strike, will he do so out of religious conviction?

"No way. It will have no connection to religious belief; it will be solely the result of rational consideration. In my opinion, there is a widespread misconception regarding this issue. People think that after Iraq, President Bush, and basically any president, would have a hard time acting against Iran. But in my assessment, there is broad support among the American public for a tough policy against Iran. Nuclear weapons in Iran's hands is a source of danger and a threat not only to Israel, but also to all of us. The Iranians will provide more support for terror organizations, dare more to challenge the U.S., become a hegemonic power in the region and perhaps even share the nuclear knowledge with terrorist organizations."

And if the U.S. doesn't strike, will Israel have to do it?

"The Israeli consideration is very similar to the American consideration. In principle, Israel has to take its own independent decision, but the truth is that it will not be an independent decision. The U.S. cannot afford for Israel to fail, if Israel decides to strike. The U.S. supports an Israeli military operation and would even embark on a similar parallel action."

And what about Israel's military capabilities?

"Clearly the U.S. has better [military] capabilities. We have B-2 bombers and stealth planes that can take off from the U.S., attack one hundred targets simultaneously and destroy them, and then return to the U.S. without the Iranians even knowing that they had passed through their air space, without being detected on Iranian radar screens. Israel does not have this capability."
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  1.   I think a naval blockade would work better 11:50  |  David G 24/01/07
  2.   Haaretz Meaning 12:15  |  Abdul 24/01/07
  3.   Abdul 12:47  |  Malik 24/01/07
  4.   Abdul, not being an official of Haaretz, just a subscriber and a 13:13  |  Nadav 24/01/07
  5.   Dream on, Perle and Co 13:13  |  Diana 24/01/07
  6.   #1 - Blockade = War declaration 13:24  |  spyguy 24/01/07
  7.   To attack or not 13:29  |  Stephen Murray 24/01/07
  8.   To Abdul 13:34  |  The teacher 24/01/07
  9.   THAT`S THE EASIEST PART 13:36  |  indrajaya 24/01/07
  10.   # 1 Naval Blockade 14:08  |  Benjamin 24/01/07
  11.   Mobbing-Media-Network 14:09  |  Arik 24/01/07
  12.   #6, do you realise you are talking BS? 14:48  |  Danny - Israeli one 24/01/07
  13.   #6, one thing is correct 14:50  |  Danny - Israeli one 24/01/07
  14.   attacking Iran 15:19  |  observer 24/01/07
  15.   An "ex" admirer of Iran 15:37  |  Akram - Paris/Beirut 24/01/07
  16.   #12 - Everyone will pay for no Iran Oil 16:05  |  spyguy 24/01/07
  17.   To attack or not to attack Iran 16:40  |  Lolita Zamir(Prof) 24/01/07
  18.   Eliminate Iran`s nuclear capacity or not? 17:41  |  Sleven 24/01/07
  19.   To attack or not to attack 17:55  |  Anton Habiru 24/01/07
  20.   Iran 18:43  |  Get Real 24/01/07
  21.   Extreme scanarios spyguy, are not based in reality 18:51  |  Jacob Blues 24/01/07
  22.   Likewise spyguy, your visions of a US/China war are exaggerated 18:55  |  Jacob Blues 24/01/07
  23.   #7 Justification is not an issue 19:16  |  Gili 24/01/07
  24.   Oil vs Nuclear Iran - Who would choose oil? 19:19  |  Gili 24/01/07
  25.   #6 Iran has already declared war 19:24  |  Gili 24/01/07
  26.   US-Iran 19:43  |  Nick 24/01/07
  27.   to attack or not to? 19:45  |  benjamin 24/01/07
  28.   #6.Totally in agreement with your clear assessment and 20:03  |  Marge 24/01/07
  29.   To attack or not to attack 20:30  |  Abraham 24/01/07
  30.   Bush does not have authority to declair war 20:35  |  Pablo B 24/01/07
  31.   Failure is NOT an Option 20:50  |  Harold 24/01/07
  32.   Hypotheses on Iran 21:09  |  ZBS 24/01/07
  33.   B-2 bombers 21:37  |  anon 24/01/07
  34.   #16, more nonsense 21:58  |  Danny - Israeli one 24/01/07
  35.   I Wouldn`t Say Never 22:12  |  Jane 24/01/07
  36.   a conspiracy theory 22:53  |  hmmmmmm 24/01/07
  37.   SPYGUY when Egypt blockaded the Straits of Tiran was that war 10:40  |  PETER SM 25/01/07
  38.   Nuke Iran Now 11:13  |  Steven 25/01/07
  39.   indrajaya hates the white man 11:25  |  bong bong 25/01/07
  40.   Wonderful - a board game where only one gets to move his pieces 11:27  |  Clickfool 25/01/07
  41.   Iranian News Is Reporting Ahmadi Says The USA And Israel Will Die 11:28  |  Yosemite 25/01/07
  42.   indrajaya did you see those cleaners 11:29  |  bong bong 25/01/07
  43.   indrajaya did you know that palestinians 11:30  |  good javanese 25/01/07
  44.   THE IRAN EQUATION 1 11:31  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 25/01/07
  45.   indrajaya we are 245 million people 11:32  |  good javanese 25/01/07
  46.   Israel soon gone anyway No 38 11:36  |  Abraham 25/01/07
  47.   indrajaya would not have heard of tacitus 11:39  |  good javanese 25/01/07
  48.   It is not the question 11:41  |  Jonathan S 25/01/07
  49.   For Cipora # 43 11:46  |  Clickfool 25/01/07
  50.   the racist clickfool is truly ignorant 11:47  |  harzion 25/01/07
  51.   attack attack attack 11:49  |  Dror 25/01/07
  52.   THE IRAN EQUATION 2 11:51  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 25/01/07
  53.   clickfool the bigot 11:52  |  harzion 25/01/07
  54.   clickfool goes for americas jugular. 11:58  |  harzion 25/01/07
  55.   #41, clickfool 12:03  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 25/01/07
  56.   clickfool the man of hate 12:04  |  harzion 25/01/07
  57.   clickfool koomeini said as he sued for peace 12:06  |  harzion 25/01/07
  58.   clickfool "for pete`s sake the iranians have told 12:11  |  harzion 25/01/07
  59.   Just Do It 12:16  |  Joseph E . 25/01/07
  60.   Bang the Drum Slowly 12:16  |  Ronnie Wolman 25/01/07
  61.   If the risult of your attack is going to be.... 12:22  |  Santana1204 25/01/07
  62.   #41, don`t you EVER get tired of writing the same crap 12:28  |  Danny - Israeli one 25/01/07
  63.   Israel is a threat to world peace 12:28  |  David 25/01/07
  64.   War must be the last option.... 12:35  |  Willy 25/01/07
  65.   Israel is already blamed for the misery in the region. NO attack! 12:40  |  Aaron 25/01/07
  66.   #42 Yosemite, good try, but out of context! 12:41  |  Maureen Ann 25/01/07
  67.   #64, obviously... 12:41  |  Danny - Israeli one 25/01/07
  68.   Abdul, Haaretz really means: Israel 12:41  |  Judith in Haifa 25/01/07
  69.   Mission Impossible 12:52  |  JCA 25/01/07
  70.   #64 David as Bambi 13:00  |  FOX 25/01/07
  71.   #42, but apparently Israel does not have that right 13:01  |  Danny - Israeli one 25/01/07
  72.   #70, I have a friend 13:08  |  Danny - Israeli one 25/01/07
  73.   David G 13:11  |  Lynn 25/01/07
  74.   The Zionist Tail 13:12  |  Clickfool 25/01/07
  75.   richard perle 13:17  |  jack hoffman 25/01/07
  76.   Israel should attack if it wants 13:23  |  Stephen Murray 25/01/07
  77.   Danny 13:23  |  Lynn 25/01/07
  78.   For Harzion # 55 13:24  |  Clickfool 25/01/07
  79.   For Joseph E # 60 13:27  |  Clickfool 25/01/07
  80.   Get Real #20 13:27  |  Lynn 25/01/07
  81.   Did diplomacy helped against Saddam the answer is big NO 13:29  |  Joseph E . 25/01/07
  82.   Santana baby #62 13:29  |  FOX 25/01/07
  83.   I do not want Iran to be a nuclear power 13:30  |  Chris Linthwaite 25/01/07
  84.   The US Will Not Attack Iran 13:30  |  Victor Smolinsky 25/01/07
  85.   #25 Gili 13:31  |  Lynn 25/01/07
  86.   For Danny - Israeli One # 63 13:32  |  Clickfool 25/01/07
  87.   Hey JCA #70 13:34  |  FOX 25/01/07
  88.   #32 ZBS 13:39  |  Lynn 25/01/07
  89.   If Israel attacks, Iranian Jews should pay 13:48  |  Al 25/01/07
  90.   to David 13:55  |  Sleven 25/01/07
  91.   Some light reading for war hawks 14:04  |  spyguy 25/01/07
  92.   Cipora 14:05  |  Lynn 25/01/07
  93.   Akram #15 14:07  |  Lynn 25/01/07
  94.   #38 Mosve (?) Dylan the "civilized" 14:10  |  Hastaroth 25/01/07
  95.   Send them Katsav 14:10  |  SJ 25/01/07
  96.   harzion #58 14:11  |  Lynn 25/01/07
  97.   67 is right 14:12  |  Jurgi 25/01/07
  98.   67 is right 14:12  |  Jurgi 25/01/07
  99.   67 is right 14:12  |  Jurgi 25/01/07
  100.   Why should we support Israel??? 14:17  |  David 25/01/07
  101.   Al`s call to annihilate Iranian Jewry (# 74) 14:17  |  JG 25/01/07
  102.   # 67 Maureen Ann 14:19  |  Lynn 25/01/07
  103.   Malik from Nablus 14:21  |  Tulip 25/01/07
  104.   # 70 number 9 depot 14:26  |  Lynn 25/01/07
  105.   # 89 Jurgi 14:29  |  Lynn 25/01/07
  106.   #88 spyguy - yep, the chickenhawks never understand.. 14:36  |  Johnboy 25/01/07
  107.   #101 David 14:45  |  Lynn 25/01/07
  108.   Iran is not doing anything 14:46  |  Marilyn 25/01/07
  109.   REMEMBER DESERT BLUE 1979? 14:48  |  indrajaya 25/01/07
  110.   clickfool and "fancy kit" 14:53  |  harzion 25/01/07
  111.   clickfool "look up sunburn cruise missile" 14:56  |  harzion 25/01/07
  112.   A Stunning Silence on the Reaction to an Attack 14:59  |  Yaakov Sullivan 25/01/07
  113.   clickfool "the americans would not like 15:05  |  harzion 25/01/07
  114.   indrajaya the united states has finally located the 15:09  |  good javanese 25/01/07
  115.   indrajaya that terrible helicopter tragedy took place 15:12  |  good javanese 25/01/07
  116.   Lets share honest thoughts 15:13  |  Atilla Karagozoglu 25/01/07
  117.   indrajaya 15:14  |  tommy suharto 25/01/07
  118.   #101 DAVID IN THE LAND OF THE CUCKOO 15:19  |  paul harris 25/01/07
  119.   i think the u.s. is sissy so is israel 15:19  |  palestine gay guy 25/01/07
  120.   smolinsky "in my opinion" 15:19  |  raphael levy 25/01/07
  121.   Victor Smolinsky, I hope that is the case...#85 15:27  |  Yaakov Sullivan 25/01/07
  122.   # 116, GOOD JAVANESE 15:27  |  indrajaya 25/01/07
  123.   chris whatever "i do not want iran to be a nuclear power" 15:28  |  raphael levy 25/01/07
  124.   linthwaite that was a really dopey post 15:30  |  nahum 25/01/07
  125.   Ahmadinehad is not the issue 15:32  |  TM 25/01/07
  126.   For Harzion, on Sunburn Cruise Missiles # 112 15:39  |  Clickfool 25/01/07
  127.   #1 David G. Naval Blockade will not work against Iran 15:45  |  Max Zinger,P.Chimist 25/01/07
  128.   levy - apparent bearer of some deep grudge 15:50  |  Victor Smolinsky 25/01/07
  129.   Naval blockade 15:53  |  Loulou 25/01/07
  130.   End of the West 15:56  |  leopold 25/01/07
  131.   Diana part of the ignorant masses 15:58  |  rich 25/01/07
  132.   Yaakov Sullivan #122 16:09  |  Victor Smolinsky 25/01/07
  133.   No one thinks about the Morning After 16:12  |  spyguy 25/01/07
  134.   Clickfool - #41 16:13  |  Oh please 25/01/07
  135.   Attacking = Next World War 16:24  |  Vadim 25/01/07
  136.   For Max Zinger # 128 16:27  |  Clickfool 25/01/07
  137.   Clickfool....Iran never threatened israel?? Do u read the news? 16:30  |  SHIMON 25/01/07
  138.   G-d willing the evil of Iran will be stopped at all costs 16:31  |  paul 25/01/07
  139.   Clickfool 16:35  |  F. Thune 25/01/07
  140.   Spyguy-Maybe 16:41  |  Harry D 25/01/07
  141.   Two mistaken concepts 16:44  |  Mark Lincoln 25/01/07
  142.   clickfool and his fantasies 16:47  |  harzion 25/01/07
  143.   Has China Joined The Zionist Propaganda Machine? 16:48  |  Harry D 25/01/07
  144.   Clickfool #127 16:49  |  Victor Smolinsky 25/01/07
  145.   "nuclear weapons in Iran will affect Israel`s nuclear monopoly." 16:50  |  Guy From NYC 25/01/07
  146.   #124 Raphael levy 16:54  |  Chris Linthwaite 25/01/07
  147.   clickfool "the shock to the american psyche" 16:55  |  harzion 25/01/07
  148.   Israel is the real enemy not Iran!! 16:59  |  El Mansour - Egypt 25/01/07
  149.   To behave rationally or irrationally. That is the question. 17:01  |  Timothy 25/01/07
  150.   Nuke facilities strike will improve Mideast 17:01  |  Bimmer 25/01/07
  151.   to whom it may concern(smolinsky may steal a peek) 17:05  |  raphael levy 25/01/07
  152.   $8 a gallon Victor? You want to show us the math? 17:05  |  Jacob Blues 25/01/07
  153.   Spyguy and the $64,000 question 17:12  |  Jacob Blues 25/01/07
  154.   Wow: Where does one begin... 17:12  |  Michael Korn 25/01/07
  155.   smolinsky `how shocked were you" 17:13  |  raphael levy 25/01/07
  156.   smolinsky argentina would not have done so well 17:16  |  raphael levy 25/01/07
  157.   smolinsky "the russian sunburn missile is considered 17:19  |  raphael levy 25/01/07
  158.   The long forgotten art of the deal 17:22  |  Tosefta 25/01/07
  159.   just imagine 17:23  |  Gabriel 25/01/07
  160.   chris linthwaite 15 years is a long way away 17:23  |  raphael levy 25/01/07
  161.   timothy "rationally or etc" 17:27  |  nahum 25/01/07
  162.   what harry d should be saying 17:30  |  yirmiyahu 25/01/07
  163.   To Be or Not to Be 17:35  |  imad 25/01/07
  164.   Respond to # 41 17:35  |  Kipperraes 25/01/07
  165.   Greetings to the ordinary Iranians 17:39  |  Student of Man 25/01/07
  166.   Jacob Blues #153 17:45  |  Victor Smolinsky 25/01/07
  167.   #144 Er, don`t read too much into the article 17:59  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  168.   # 149 El Mansour in Egypt 18:00  |  Ed 25/01/07
  169.   Lynn 18:03  |  Jurgi 25/01/07
  170.   #151 Aw, come on Bimmer, sounds like 18:04  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  171.   #139 what if G-d is not willing? 18:05  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  172.   #82 Iraq was a mistake; seems like everybody 18:10  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  173.   #83 I don`t think you are reading `world opinion` 18:14  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  174.   To attack or not attack isra-hell is the question 18:14  |  sami 25/01/07
  175.   #81 "it is in the best interest of the US to have 18:15  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  176.   Attack? 18:17  |  David Nigel Braham 25/01/07
  177.   #108 Lynn "this mess" 18:18  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  178.   #106 Who told you that, Lynn 18:20  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  179.   #25 More BS--geez, americans ears are 18:25  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  180.   smolinsky what a bore 18:26  |  raphael levy 25/01/07
  181.   101 - Israel`s Strategic Value to the US 18:27  |  Bruriah Sarah 25/01/07
  182.   MARILYN 18:32  |  gabe1 25/01/07
  183.   Nuclear wasteland Iran 18:33  |  Bobby 25/01/07
  184.   #31 Another mad hatter 18:35  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  185.   Who is Maureen Ann? What do her words show? 18:37  |  Cat 25/01/07
  186.   El Mansour: Whose your Enemy? 18:40  |  Michael Korn 25/01/07
  187.   149 "Israel is the real enemy" 18:41  |  Cat 25/01/07
  188.   ED of Canada. 18:43  |  El Mansour - Egypt 25/01/07
  189.   ED of Canada. 18:43  |  El Mansour - Egypt 25/01/07
  190.   Famous Number 9 Depot. To #88 Fox 18:46  |  JCA 25/01/07
  191.   to Clickfool 18:48  |  Cat 25/01/07
  192.   ClickFOOL-how appropriate 18:51  |  Ronnie J Pike II 25/01/07
  193.   144 - Peaceful uses of nuclear bomb? 18:54  |  Bruriah Sarah 25/01/07
  194.   What a question? 18:55  |  Brod 25/01/07
  195.   Sweet Dreams Baby 19:00  |  Danite 25/01/07
  196.   Sunburn Missile 19:02  |  AE 25/01/07
  197.   # 65 Willy 19:15  |  Lynn 25/01/07
  198.   149 - Egypt is Violating Peace Agreements with Israel 19:21  |  Bruriah Sarah 25/01/07
  199.   For Paul in Vancouver # 139 19:22  |  Clickfool 25/01/07
  200.   Are you thick, Harzion? # 143 19:25  |  Clickfool 25/01/07
  201.   # 166 Jurgi 19:28  |  Lynn 25/01/07
  202.   For Victor Smolinsky # 145 19:32  |  Clickfool 25/01/07
  203.   # 116 good javanese 19:33  |  Lynn 25/01/07
  204.   It`s something called price stickiness, Victor 19:33  |  Jacob Blues 25/01/07
  205.   Azeri interest in this matter 19:34  |  Glaza Bafsza 25/01/07
  206.   # 120 palestinian gay guy 19:35  |  Lynn 25/01/07
  207.   The problem behind the problem with Iran is poor education in Ame 19:35  |  Apartheid 25/01/07
  208.   clickfool "israel has committed atrocities" 19:37  |  harzion 25/01/07
  209.   Ballistic: Who sold China the technology? 19:39  |  Michael Korn 25/01/07
  210.   # 148 harzion 19:40  |  Lynn 25/01/07
  211.   For Kipperraes # 161 19:41  |  Clickfool 25/01/07
  212.   tiresome in tiveria 19:42  |  flashman 25/01/07
  213.   thoughtless in tiveria 19:48  |  flashman 25/01/07
  214.   after you .... 19:49  |  whizbang 25/01/07
  215.   techy in tiveria 19:53  |  flashman 25/01/07
  216.   toothsome in tveria 19:56  |  flashman 25/01/07
  217.   #167 you`re all wet 19:56  |  Bimmer 25/01/07
  218.   #149El Mansour, Boy I am so powerful:Clickfool eat your heart out 19:57  |  Haham me Bat Yam 25/01/07
  219.   te deum in tveira 19:57  |  flashman 25/01/07
  220.   talking rubbish about missiles 19:57  |  whoopwhoop 25/01/07
  221.   Do not give Saudies such a present 19:58  |  Israel Supporters 25/01/07
  222.   teardrop in tveira 20:00  |  flashman 25/01/07
  223.   Stop advice Saudi Arabia around (#149) 20:01  |  Israel Supporter 25/01/07
  224.   Tommy Suharto Re: Indrajaya 20:02  |  Yosemite 25/01/07
  225.   clickfool "flashman has disappeared" 20:09  |  harzion 25/01/07
  226.   Return of the shallow water, multi-headed hydra (aka "flashman") 20:13  |  Tosefta 25/01/07
  227.   Clickfool re: occuped power 20:15  |  Ed 25/01/07
  228.   clickfool "R U S S I A" 20:15  |  harzion 25/01/07
  229.   saber-rattling for domestic consumption 20:17  |  Not in my name 25/01/07
  230.   #208 Whiz bang 20:20  |  Neal 25/01/07
  231.   Jacob Blues #186 20:22  |  Victor Smolinsky 25/01/07
  232.   Hmm, Victor and Clickfool applaud each other 20:25  |  Jacob Blues 25/01/07
  233.   Persians and other Iranians for #211 20:27  |  Voice of Reason 25/01/07
  234.   177. Atlanta again, Bobby 20:27  |  sicko 25/01/07
  235.   victor smolinsky and clickfool agree 20:28  |  nahum 25/01/07
  236.   Apartheid: We know the Iranian people 20:29  |  Aaron 25/01/07
  237.   #196 Give Americans more credit than you do. 20:30  |  Michael Korn 25/01/07
  238.   tanka in tveira 20:34  |  flashman 25/01/07
  239.   Let`s just nuke Iran! Don`t talk, just do it! 20:35  |  Toronto`s Finest 25/01/07
  240.   CLICKFOOL #193 20:43  |  PAT 25/01/07
  241.   the two stooges 20:47  |  raphael levy 25/01/07
  242.   nahun #216 20:48  |  Victor Smolinsky 25/01/07
  243.   Bimmer #211: Right On 20:49  |  Michael Korn 25/01/07
  244.   response to #205 20:49  |  kipperraes 25/01/07
  245.   220. Toronto`s finest. Your neighbors in Toronto must be very 20:51  |  Apartheid 25/01/07
  246.   Jacob Blues #213 20:53  |  Victor Smolinsky 25/01/07
  247.   Showdown with nuclear Iran is unavoidable 20:55  |  Jonathan S 25/01/07
  248.   217. Aaron. Tou are going to ride down on an atom bomb like Sli 20:57  |  Apartheid 25/01/07
  249.   To Bobby #177 20:59  |  Persian Kitty 25/01/07
  250.   Earlier post was for #205 not #196 21:05  |  Michael Korn 25/01/07
  251.   still went down smolinsky chappie 21:13  |  raphael levy 25/01/07
  252.   Iran is a rogue state and fights as such 21:13  |  Jonathan S 25/01/07
  253.   #210 Hi there Michael Korn 21:14  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  254.   #205, americans citzens don`tknow Iran, but pentagon does 21:15  |  Voice of Reason 25/01/07
  255.   #240 to the mad hatter from Canada 21:20  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  256.   #182 Hey Sarah, the US will drop Israel like 21:24  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  257.   Victor Smolinsky 21:27  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 25/01/07
  258.   #67 Maureen, "OUCH" 21:28  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  259.   Another factor in the equation 21:29  |  Colin Wright 25/01/07
  260.   #255 Voice of reason sounds like voice of madness 21:32  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  261.   #5 Diana 21:33  |  Larry 25/01/07
  262.   238 Michael Korn. Clever of you to start with 30 year olds. 21:37  |  Apartheid 25/01/07
  263.   Colin Wright 21:37  |  Where`s Waldo 25/01/07
  264.   Jumping up and down about Iran 21:41  |  Keith T. 25/01/07
  265.   As I said before Victor 21:42  |  Jacob Blues 25/01/07
  266.   #142, Mark Lincoln 21:43  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 25/01/07
  267.   I call G-8, Victor 21:43  |  Jacob Blues 25/01/07
  268.   255 Voice of unreason. Isn`t it curious that we have contingency 21:43  |  Apartheid 25/01/07
  269.   #260 Hopefully Biden will talk 21:45  |  balistic 25/01/07
  270.   Nice one, Apartheid 21:47  |  Aaron 25/01/07
  271.   For Jonathan S # 248 21:53  |  Clickfool 25/01/07
  272.   Bombs away with #266 Cipora Juliana Korn. You may be "an amateur 21:55  |  Apartheid 25/01/07
  273.   #87, yes that is it 21:55  |  Danny - Israeli one 25/01/07
  274.   #260, Colin Wright 21:56  |  Cipora julianna Kohn 25/01/07
  275.   #259, you mean nothing BUT BS? 22:00  |  Danny - Israeli one 25/01/07
  276.   #186 Cat on Maureen`s post 22:04  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  277.   #188 er, seems to me that a good first 22:05  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  278.   #194 US list of terrorists 22:06  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  279.   #269, more than 150 countries 22:07  |  Danny - Israeli one 25/01/07
  280.   270 Aaron. I don`t recall any `Jihadi Terrorists coming from Iran 22:08  |  Apartheid 25/01/07
  281.   Cipora Julianna Kohn #258 22:08  |  Victor Smolinsky 25/01/07
  282.   #263, what history are you reading? 22:09  |  Danny - Israeli one 25/01/07
  283.   #199 you sound foolish talking about violating 22:09  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  284.   #237 Aaron; now here is a nonsense post 22:15  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  285.   Jonathan; yeah right, what are you smoking 22:17  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  286.   Cipora Julianna Kohn 22:17  |  Mark Lincoln 25/01/07
  287.   #119 Hey Archie Bunker, Paul Harris 22:20  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  288.   Cipora - in the 22 Jan. Aviation Leak 22:26  |  Mark Lincoln 25/01/07
  289.   To #255 Voice of Reason `Americans don`t...` 22:26  |  Colin Wright 25/01/07
  290.   #276 Danny; read your #72 post, now there is 22:31  |  ballistic 25/01/07
  291.   233. applause - and some ironic history 22:31  |  hmmmmmm 25/01/07
  292.   You are partially correct Cipora 22:31  |  Mark Lincoln 25/01/07
  293.   re #149`boy am I so powerful...` 22:32  |  Colin Wright 25/01/07
  294.   To #279 `#270 Aaron` 22:41  |  Colin Wright 25/01/07
  295.   There will be TOO MUCH To loose in attacking IRAN. 22:45  |  Marge 25/01/07
  296.   #280, Victor Smolinsky 22:46  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 25/01/07
  297.   Forget about US attack for the next couple of years 22:50  |  Tosefta 25/01/07
  298.   Forget about US attack for the next couple of years 22:51  |  Tosefta 25/01/07
  299.   Clickfool loves negative attention 22:54  |  Mundo 25/01/07
  300.   #246 & #256. Please read the post before responding! 22:55  |  Toronto`s Finest 25/01/07
  301.   Total blindness from Cipora # 258 22:59  |  Clickfool 25/01/07
  302.   To attack or not to attack? 22:59  |  Dan 25/01/07
  303.   and the answer is................ 23:02  |  tadchase 25/01/07
  304.   # 179 NK and Iran 23:02  |  Lynn 25/01/07
  305.   Victor Smolinsky 23:10  |  Mark Lincoln 25/01/07
  306.   Yaakov Sullivan is doing spititual work 23:15  |  ron 25/01/07
  307.   Two can play the game in which Iran is engaged. 23:15  |  bat yam 25/01/07
  308.   SAME OLD SONG AND DANCE 23:16  |  Stephen Connor 25/01/07
  309.   #279- Apartheid`s dream world writings 23:18  |  Ronnie J Pike II 25/01/07
  310.   #174 granny speaks for world AGAIN AL 6 BILLION 23:20  |  paul harris 25/01/07
  311.   # 178 The whole ME is a mess 23:21  |  Lynn 25/01/07
  312.   # 191 JCA in Dubai 23:28  |  Lynn 25/01/07
  313.   #134. UR right, spyguy. 23:36  |  Adam 25/01/07
  314.   Ballistic 23:42  |  Michael Korn 25/01/07
  315.   Follow Me Boys! 23:56  |  The Col. 25/01/07
  316.   #279 wow 23:58  |  Ronnie J Pike II 25/01/07
  317.   Answering Ahmadinejad’s little helper ClickFOOL 00:06  |  Jonathan S 26/01/07
  318.   BALLISTIC THE COMPUTER HOG.FILLS UP THE SPACES 00:17  |  paul harris 26/01/07
  319.   #291 ADAM 00:23  |  jon feigenbaum 26/01/07
  320.   Mark Lincoln #283 00:40  |  Victor Smolinsky 26/01/07
  321.   #253 Jonathan--here is one rogue state calling 00:45  |  ballistic 26/01/07
  322.   Forget about US attack for the next couple of years 00:47  |  Tosefta 26/01/07
  323.   FOOL The consequences for Iran if they hit the Israeli refineries 00:52  |  PETER SM 26/01/07
  324.   #288, Stephen Connor 00:53  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/01/07
  325.   Ronnie, what is an Arayan? 01:00  |  Pssd Off American 26/01/07
  326.   #186 Cat? 01:09  |  Maureen Ann 26/01/07
  327.   My, My, My....And then there were 2 01:10  |  Larry 26/01/07
  328.   For the good of peace Iran must be destroyed 01:11  |  Proud Turkish Soldie 26/01/07
  329.   #38-Another "anti-Zionist" crawls out of the woodwork 01:17  |  Harry D 26/01/07
  330.   Clickfool, you`re a bit sanguine... 01:26  |  Pssd Off American 26/01/07
  331.   If Iran is attack they will retaliate, 01:28  |  Marge 26/01/07
  332.   Response to #212 Clickfool 01:53  |  Kipperraes 26/01/07
  333.   To El Mansour - Egypt 02:01  |  Geoff 26/01/07
  334.   Re: #1 David G, naval blockade? Iran has Sunburn Missiles? 02:04  |  Sharla H. 26/01/07
  335.   Clickfool, the military expert/Iran closes Gulf 02:07  |  Ed 26/01/07
  336.   Some thoughts on Chinese Technology 02:08  |  spyguy 26/01/07
  337.   Re: Pssd Off American 02:15  |  Uri Nall 26/01/07
  338.   #268, you call this pushing back? not to a vietnam vet. 02:17  |  Voice of Reason 26/01/07
  339.   #300 G-d bles Atta Turk and the Turkish Army 02:20  |  Aaron 26/01/07
  340.   Re: Marge...contribute to global warming? 02:20  |  R.L. Farenstein 26/01/07
  341.   #294, sadly, diplomacy has not worked 02:24  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/01/07
  342.   To Ronnie J Pike II - Part 1 02:30  |  Persian Kitty 26/01/07
  343.   To Ronnie J Pike II - Part 2 02:36  |  Persian Kitty 26/01/07
  344.   Cipora Julianna Kohn - I tried to reply pt 1 02:36  |