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Reform movement: Sex-segregated Egged buses are illegal
By Yair Ettinger, Haaretz Correspondent

Egged buses in which ultra-Orthodox men and women are separated are illegal, says the Israel Religious Action Center, the legal advocacy arm of the Israeli Reform movement. The center is threatening to petition the High Court of Justice against the Transportation Ministry over the issue.

Two new sex-segregated bus lines, known as Mehadrin lines, were introduced at the beginning of this week - between Ofakim and Bnei Brak, and between Ofakim and Jerusalem, bringing to 30 the number of segregated buses that Egged is operating throughout the country. Most of the buses are on intercity lines. There are private companies which also operate sex-segregated buses.

Line no. 494, one of the two new Egged Mehadrin lines, is the only bus that goes directly from Jerusalem to the Negev town of Ofakim and it runs at a reduced price. A resident of Ofakim who wishes to ride by regular bus to Jerusalem has to take two separate buses and ends up paying twice as much as those on the Mehadrin lines. That is one of the reasons that the center is demanding Egged define clear criteria for the operation of its Mehadrin lines. The center is not opposed to the idea of operating special lines for ultra-Orthodox passengers.
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Attorney Orly Erez-Lehovsky on Wednesday sent the ministry a letter warning that the center was planning action unless a number of demands about the operation of the buses is met. The center is demanding that Mehadrin lines operate in mixed secular-religious towns only if there is also a line that is not segregated on a gender basis that operates there. The present arrangement constitutes a violation of the Basic Law on Human Dignity and Freedom and discriminates in the kinds of services it offers, the center says.

The Egged spokesman, Ron Ratner, said that the bus cooperative makes decisions according to economic viability. "In the western Negev, our customers are mainly from the religious public," he said. "We estimate that in 15-20 years it will pay off. Then, too, we will be the national carrier but we will specialize in certains sectors. Our crowning glory will be the ultra-Orthodox sector from which hundreds of thousands of passengers use our buses."

To this the center responded: "The fact that Egged wants lines that are economically feasible does not mean it can contravene the law. The Transportation Ministry must make Egged aware of the gravity of its conduct."

Ministry spokesman Avner Ovadia responded: "The Mehadrin lines are the result of agreements reached between Egged and Haredi bodies. There is voluntary segregation between men and women on these buses and it is not based on transportation regulations. We do not instruct certain buses to be for the ultra-Orthodox alone. Anyone who feels offended by the operation of these buses should send a complaint to the transportation ministry."
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  1.   Brilliant move be miniscule Reform movement 05:53  |  Lee 07/07/06
  2.   Pluralism 06:00  |  Sammy 07/07/06
  3.   "Free loan" 06:34  |  Robert Frosch 07/07/06
  4.   Read What`s There, Lee, Not What You Want to See 06:37  |  plone 07/07/06
  5.   Public or Private Bus? 08:34  |  Haim 07/07/06
  6.   Anti religious hatred by Reform 08:47  |  ze`ev 07/07/06
  7.   Why should either Reform or Haredi 08:58  |  sh 07/07/06
  8.   Lee, study some history 09:18  |  Avrum 07/07/06
  9.   Sex-segregated buses 09:20  |  Rosita Winkler 07/07/06
  10.   Next idea: only ashkenazim, or only russians 09:52  |  Alain 07/07/06
  11.   It`s a bus... 10:00  |  Dave 07/07/06
  12.   Segregated Bus 10:09  |  Gad Giladi 07/07/06
  13.   no shirts, no pants, we all have sensitivities 10:36  |  arze 07/07/06
  14.   Dave #7 10:44  |  Avi Yerushalmi 07/07/06
  15.   Why not, Israel is turning a true ME country anyway 11:58  |  Mark 07/07/06
  16.   Cohanim in the first row, levi`im in the following 12:03  |  Richard 07/07/06
  17.   If the public pays 12:11  |  Margie 07/07/06
  18.   Ze`ev: It`s sad that you view wanting equality as hatred 12:24  |  David Teich 07/07/06
  19.   demand and supply 12:58  |  Nathan 07/07/06
  20.   #18, David Teich - Segregation 13:14  |  Fritz 07/07/06
  21.   WHO CARES GUYS, LET THE RELIGIOUS MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS 13:17  |  yonatan ezra 07/07/06
  22.   David: Everybody are welcome onboard 13:17  |  Nathan 07/07/06
  23.   SWITCH TO ANOTHER CHANNEL 13:21  |  Jay A Friedman 07/07/06
  24.   Nathan in Haifa 13:55  |  sh 07/07/06
  25.   cult like demands from a cult like religion 14:25  |  dawn 07/07/06
  26.   CAN I GO TO ISRAEL 14:37  |  TOBIA 07/07/06
  27.   Picture this 14:43  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 07/07/06
  28.   #24 sj: about Chareidi buses in J`lem 14:58  |  Daniel van Dalen 07/07/06
  29.   #27 Margie 15:01  |  Daniel van Dalen 07/07/06
  30.   #3 Robert Frosch 15:05  |  Daniel van Dalen 07/07/06
  31.   The Reform Movement are Illegal 15:17  |  S Judah 07/07/06
  32.   David Teich: What should be demanded is stricter enforcement! 15:20  |  Yaakov Sullivan 07/07/06
  33.   Reform Movment ILLEGAL 15:21  |  AlanL 07/07/06
  34.   Liberation from the Jewish dark ages 15:24  |  Bitter Pill 07/07/06
  35.   typical secular blinkers 15:28  |  peter 07/07/06
  36.   # Daniel van Dalen 15:30  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 07/07/06
  37.   Segrated buses 15:33  |  John 07/07/06
  38.   Margie # 27 It`s not true. 15:38  |  Avi Yerushalmi 07/07/06
  39.   IS REFORM PERFORMING LEGAL DEEDS??? 15:47  |  yishay banatz 07/07/06
  40.   NOT ABOUT RELIGION 15:50  |  TOBIA 07/07/06
  41.   Nathan: Make a real point 15:53  |  David Teich 07/07/06
  42.   same sex buses, same sex marriage --Reform 15:58  |  dov epstein 07/07/06
  43.   Blatant Immodesty! 16:00  |  Yaakov Sullivan 07/07/06
  44.   To all of you "out there" in the West 16:08  |  Avi Yerushalmi 07/07/06
  45.   David Teich get real 16:17  |  ze`ev 07/07/06
  46.   David Teich # 40 16:22  |  Avi Yerushalmi 07/07/06
  47.   To peter 16:22  |  Ryan 07/07/06
  48.   stupid reform idiocy at it again 16:27  |  SHIMON 07/07/06
  49.   why cant they respect religious jews?? Yaakov, where are you?? 16:28  |  SHIMON 07/07/06
  50.   Sullivan I agree with you for once! 16:42  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 07/07/06
  51.   To Yishay Banatz 16:44  |  Talulah 07/07/06
  52.   First Sex segragate than Gay segragate , just 16:46  |  Sal 07/07/06
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  55.   Reform Movement is going down in America 17:18  |  Moshe 07/07/06
  56.   yaakovs attempt at sarcasm 17:22  |  SHIMON 07/07/06
  57.   I thnk, whenever possible, society should 17:25  |  Mark Lincoln 07/07/06
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  59.   #50 Sullivan 17:47  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 07/07/06
  60.   So this is the state in the Middle East 17:56  |  The Doctor 07/07/06
  61.   Ryan 18:16  |  peter 07/07/06
  62.   Any religion and nationalism #59 18:27  |  Yaakov Sullivan 07/07/06
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  65.   THEN DONT RIDE! 19:01  |  KACH 613 07/07/06
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  68.   # 61 Sullivan 19:44  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 07/07/06
  69.   TOBIA no. 40 19:59  |  Ze`ev 07/07/06
  70.   Segregated bus solution 20:13  |  Deborah 07/07/06
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  74.   Re;Sullivan#59.It is about any religious ,I am with you today. 20:37  |  e.m 07/07/06
  75.   peter 20:41  |  ryan 07/07/06
  76.   to KACH 20:47  |  the pope 07/07/06
  77.   to Ze`ev 20:50  |  the pope 07/07/06
  78.   sullivan 71 21:01  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 07/07/06
  79.   honesty 21:40  |  Robert 07/07/06
  80.   to Robert 21:58  |  the pope 07/07/06
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  82.   oy ryan 22:16  |  peter 07/07/06
  83.   Reform movement- 22:24  |  Stephanie 07/07/06
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  86.   "Mehadrin Buses" 23:28  |  Antigonos 07/07/06
  87.   SEX SEGREGATED BUSES 01:24  |  ROBERTO 08/07/06
  88.   Reduced rate? 01:24  |  Baruch 08/07/06
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  90.   ZEV 03:59  |  TOBIA 08/07/06
  91.   Khomenism 04:44  |  Seawife 08/07/06
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  93.   Mr. Mark Lincoln Post # 89 05:29  |  Vicky 08/07/06
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