Food co-op in Rachel Corrie's hometown boycotts Israeli goods
The Olympia Food Co-op announced last week that no more Israeli products will be sold at its two grocery stores.
By Natasha Mozgovaya Tags: Israel newsAmericans are far more supportive of Israel than Europeans, and most initiatives to boycott Israeli goods or to divest funds from companies working with Israel are unsuccessful in the United States.
But such projects have recently become more widespread, especially among students – although most divestment decisions by student bodies are not implemented on the colleges' management levels.
Last week, the board of directors of the Olympia Food Co-op in Washington state decided that no more Israeli products will be sold at its two grocery stores in the city.
"We met last Thursday for the board members meeting and a pretty large group – about 40 people – presented the boycott project and answered our questions," Rob Richards, a board member, told Haaretz. "A couple of board members were concerned about what will be the financial effect on the organization, but it’s minimal. For me personally there is a moral imperative that goes beyond any financial concern. So we decided to adopt the boycott which went into effect the next day."
Asked whether the boycott includes all products made in Israel, or only in settlements, Richards explained: "As far as I know – it concerns any Israeli products. We exempted "Peace Oil" – it’s a joint product produced by the Palestinian farmers. Any product that is made by the company that works to improve the conditions of the Palestinians will be exempted."
Richards says the decision drew no protests.
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A protester calling for a boycott of Israel. |
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"There was very little feedback from the staff that was against the boycott, but it seemed as minority opinion. We have two members on the board from the Jewish community who were supportive of the boycott – it’s pretty progressive town. I know that’s not universal at the Jewish community."
There is a list of conditions that will lead to the end of the boycott, he says.
"I am trying to be realistic – the Olympia Food Co-Op boycott is not going to change the Israeli policy, but I believe that these small drops will eventually have an effect. I would like to see more co-ops joining the boycott and more voices involved," he added.
It is probably no coincidence that Olympia is the hometown of the International Solidarity Movement activist Rachel Corrie who was killed seven years ago in Gaza - a Caterpillar bulldozer ran over her as she tried to prevent demolition of a Palestinian house. Last month, the student body of Evergreen State College in Olympia, where she studied, passed two resolutions which called for the college foundation "to divest from companies that profit from Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine," and the second one called to ban the Caterpillar company equipment from campus.
"The fact that it is the home town of Rachel Corrie’s parents and that it is represented by Rep Brian Baird (who has been to Gaza and is outspoken against Israel) makes this ripe for issues," said Jennifer Laszlo Mizrahi of The Israel Project, a pro-Israel organization. "So does the fact that it does not have a very organized pro-Israel community. This went under the radar screen at a time when most groups were focused on Iran sanctions and other macro issues. It is clear that the people who voted on this did not hear both sides of the issues. What is needed is education on facts."
An Israeli diplomatic source told Haaretz that the boycott issue is being checked, and although it seems like a marginal incident. The source added that "we are concerned about every attempt to delegitimize Israel."
The Olympia Food Co-Op boycott is only a tiny part of an effort that the BDS (boycotts, divestment and sanctions) movement is mounting on U.S. companies. On Monday, Jewish Voice for Peace activists planned to attend the TIAA-CREF annual meeting the company headquarters in New York City to deliver thousands of signatures calling on the company to divest its money from Caterpillar, Elbit, Motorola and some other companies, that, as JVP puts it, "profit from the violation of international law through home demolitions, the destruction of life sustaining orchards, the construction of roads and transit that only Israelis can use, the killing of civilians by drones, and many other injustices."
In some places the mainstream Jewish community has reacted vigorously against boycott attempts, but many Israel supporters are worried that the battle "might be already lost at the campuses."
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I feel sorry for the Olympia food group that is instigating this boycott..The Bible states that anyone turning their backs on Israel will not be blessed..if I lived there, I would boycott those grocery stores..and support Israel..
In the US (where I live) Food Co-Op Boards of Directors are generally mild folk, not prone to political acts. It is the gross injustice of Israeli Government's treatment of the Palestinians that can not be ignored by compassionate humans. The American Jews are overwhelmingly compassionate humans. It is they who will eventually turn Israeli Government policy around. In the interest of Israel and Palestine let us hope that day is not far off.
Unfortunately, it's too late to go shopping this evening. However, tomorrow, Wednesday, July 21, 2010, I'm going to my local supermarket and purchase at least one of each Israeli made product. I hope that it helps to make up for the racist boycott by the far left goon squad Kool-Aid drinkers at the Olympia Food Co-op.
I visited Olympia College back in the 70's. What a bunch of loosers then and now. Ya' Ben.
If contracts, verbal or otherwise, are broken as a result of the proselytizing of the antijews then there are other possible means of dealing.
The commenters basically wish to now accuse the dead protester of terrorism, when all she was doing was peacefully protesting. Ironically, this is on the day when an Israeli court commuted the sentence of a soldier who killed a Briton who was helping kids cross the street in Gaza. Basically, Israel and its supporters don't care who they kill--the Israelis are never responsible, whether it's Rachel Korrie, the Briton, or the sailors on the USS Liberty who were attacked for 5 hours (a "mistake" only rivaled by the ten hours of shelling a marked UN outpost took, despite pleas to the Israeli mission at the UN. As befits such "mistakes" that only resulted in the deaths of non-Israelis, no one charged, no one convicted. So if you're going to kill us and then smirk and make remarks, why should Americans care about Israelis? Sorry, all these comments do is suggest that Israel and her supporters don't care about the rest of the world. So go nurse your grievances--alone.You'll finally be surrounded by the only people you like.
No decent person should buy from these pro-arab, pro-terror idiots. Anti-semites musy be boycotted. Demonstrate in front of their stores until no one will approach them, conract their suppliers and talk to them. Get these anti-Semites to file for unemployment...
BTW Israel has 223 UNSC resolutions against it, all based in International Law.
To Cindy and Craig Corrie: You are right to be angry over your daughter’s death but I think you are directing your anger at the wrong people. Her so-called friends in the International Solidarity Movement encouraged or at least allowed her to kneel in front of a construction vehicle (and therefore place herself below the driver’s line of vision, noting that the bulldozer blade would have been in the way and also that the armored vehicle’s view slits did not allow him to see much anyway) and then, when it became clear that the driver was not going to stop, did nothing to pull her out of the way. Since the bulldozer was moving slowly (according to their own testimony), I think an able-bodied man could have done that, but it seems that no men–as our civilization once defined men–were present at the scene. Furthermore, her “friends” encouraged or allowed her to enter an area with construction equipment without a hard hat which (noting testimony that says head injuries played a role in her death) might in fact have saved her. The bottom line is that she seems to have gotten involved with some very reckless and irresponsible people who have expressed far less remorse than Israel over her death. I believe that Rachel Corrie will have justice when the ISM is exposed for what it is, and turned into a pariah with which nobody of any political view or ideology will associate.
If they want to boycott Israel they should at least do it the right way. Israel created the intel chips and windows software that is most likely used in their cash registers. They also created cell phones and voicemail which I’m sure the store uses for business.
http://olympiafood.coop/ Unfortunately, you can not order over the internet. They appear to only sell at their two retail stores. But you can see their policies and express your support and thanks. But maybe with their recent good publicity, they will open an internet sales channel soon. Or, if you are not too far from Olympia WA, consider paying them a visit and buying their products.
Good idea! Thanks Olympia
Let's boycot Olympia Food Co-Op. Let's shop food in nondiscriminating stores.
All those who think this is just over the top should drive to Olympia and picket. I don't shop at that store chain, it's too far to travel. Does that mean I'm boycotting the store? Oops.
Once again someplace decides on a selective boycott of Israel. I think the home town od Rachel Corrie should boycott everything made in Israel not just food and lets see how long they can remain a part of the world of the 21st century
What they are doing maybe illegal under US law: http://www.bis.doc.gov/complianceandenforcement/antiboycottcompliance.htm
This coop has two stores, one @ 3111 Pacific Ave SE(360) 956-3879, the other at 321 Rogers St. NW.(360) 754-7666: see mapquest for directions. They have a newsletter. Some advertisers are Orca books at 509 4th Ave; Compass Rose: Olymmpic Community Schools: Bill Stener Psychotheray;T-time flatware; Sunshine CLeaning; Olympia Waldorf School. They all have websites. Remember PERSONALIZE THE CONFLICT!!
So, will these food stores stop carrying any products made in China?
already have
For those who are at least somewhat interested in the history of Israel, will be useful to know. There is such a book "Palestina ex Monumentis Veteribus Illustrata" by Adriani Rilandi - Geography cartography traveler, linguist, knew several European languages, the book are written in Latin. In 1695 he was sent to what was then called Palestine. In his trip, he visited almost 2500 settlements mentioned in the Bible. The study was conducted as follows: First, he created a map of Palestine. Then he marked each settlement, which was mentioned in the Bible or the Talmud with his original name. If the original was Jewish, he meant "Pasuk" (sentence) in the Holy Scriptures, which referred. If original was a Roman or Greek, led communications in Latin or Greek, at the end he made a census of the settlements. Here are the main conclusions and some facts: - Country mostly empty, abandoned, and sparsely populated, the main population in Jerusalem, Acre, Safed, Jaffa, Tiberias and Gaza. The majority of people - Jews, almost all the others - Christians, very few Muslims, mostly Bedouins. The only exception - Nablus (now Nablus), in which lived about 120 people from a Muslim family Natshe and about 70 "Shomron" (Samaritans). - In Nazareth, the capital of Galilee, and lived about 700 people - all Christians. - In Jerusalem - about 5,000 people, almost all the Jews and some Christians. - In 1695-th year, everyone knew that the origins of the country - Jewish .- There is no settlement in Palestine, in the name of which has Arab roots. Most settlements are Jewish originals, and in some cases, Greek or Roman / latin. In the city of Ramla no Arab settlement, whose original Arabic name. - Names of Jewish, Greek or Latin, which were changed to Arabic, in which there is no sense in Arabic. In Arabic there is no sense in names like: Acre, Haifa, Jaffa, Nablus, Gaza or Jenin, and names like Ramallah, Al-Khalil (Hebron), Al-Quds (Jerusalem) - have no historical or philological Arab roots. For example, in 1696-th year, Ramallah was called Betel (Beit-El, the House of God), Hebron, and the cave of Machpelah was called by the Arabs El-Khalil (the nickname of Abraham). - Relandi mentions Muslims only as a Bedouin, who came to the city as seasonal workers in agriculture or construction industries. - In Gaza lived about 550 people, half of them Jewish and half Christian. Jews have been successfully engaged in agriculture, especially vineyards, olive trees and wheat, the Christians was engaged in trade and transportation. - In Tiberias and Safed Jews lived, but no mention of their occupation, except for traditional fishing in the Kinneret .- In the village of Um El-Fahm, for example, lived 10 families, all Christians (about 50). There was a small maronskaya church. The book completely refutes the theory that "the Palestinian traditions," "Palestinian people" and leaves almost no connection between the land and the Arabs, who even stole the Latin name of this land (Palestine) and took him to himself.
customerservice@olympiafood.coop harry@olympiafood.coop memberrelations@olympiafood.coop
Thanks. I'll send an email in support of the boycott
thankls i will tell them what an inspiration they are to me, i will contact stores in my country also
I have written to all three to congratulate them on the courage they have shown in standing up against apartheid. And I will post the addresses everywhere so that others can do the same. customerservice@olympiafood.coop harry@olympiafood.coop memberrelations@olympiafood.coop customerservice@olympiafood.coop harry@olympiafood.coop memberrelations@olympiafood.coop
Ouch! 2 stores in a small redneck town, the israeli economy will certainly feel it (LOL)
I know what you're trying to say, but Olympia is the opposite of a redneck town. Rednecks aren't liberal. Olympia is.
to stop sending our dollars to Israel, we could use them at home...
The problem is that the vote by the coop board was done in a completely non coop way. I don't see how anyone could truly say that the board tried to include a crosssection of the membership BEFORE their vote.It all happened quickly and quietly. That is what needs to be talked about.
and I'm very proud of her. The anti-apartheid bpycott started small but it worked. In the WB today there are different roads for Jews and non-Jews. A local non-Jew cannot buy a house in a settlement. there is a word for this system
She went into a war zone during the height of Palestinian terror attacks against innocent Israelis with the aim of blocking Israeli actions to curb the terror campaign
what an uneducated person you are. please google for rachel's images burning the american flag with a smile on her face bordering to hate. so much for the anerican patriot.
Perhaps the most famous picture of her was her burning a facsimile of the American flag, "American Patriot."
Anybody the least bit familiar with America's foreign policy (much of it insisted upon by the all-powerful Jews, including the Iraq sanctions that led to the killing of half a million Iraqi children ("worth it," the opinion of our then secretary of state, Madeleine Albright)), i.e., anyone with a shred of decency and humanity and the ability to think for himself, would also be "anti-American."
american patriot - try buy a house in Gaza and FYI you can buy a house in Israel
Will be her burning an American flag while the future terrorists look at her like she is crazy
the ISM is indeed an imature leftist radical group who an be found on the State Dept watch list for aiding Terrorist operations in not only the West Bank and Gaza but in Israel proper as well. I;m sorry some of you don’t like to hear the opposition to your misguided views on Rachel but as they say, The Truth Hurts.
you are ignorant, with a superficial view of reality. You are spoonfed by the MSM. The same MSM who colluded to hide facts about Obama so as to make sure he won the election. Are you even aware of this fact?
the u.s. supreme court has consistently protected flag desecration as legitimate public expression. amendments to the constitution to outlaw flag desecration has repeatedly failed to be ratified by congress. get another leg to stand on.
Every American has a "right" to burn the flag if they so desire. No one has a right to take her life.
Notice how disgruntled some hawks are about this piece? Here's the secret: They're up in arms because they know that a change in the majority of American public opinion would mean an insurmountable loss for their ideological battle.
I was going to say the same. tel aviv, we have a (major) problem !!!
I believe the majority sentiment in my area no longer agrees with Washington's position on it's one sided support to the State of Israel. Please, you foaming at the mouth Zionist need to understand that your racist views on making a great religion, a racist ideology, xhating and oppressing the Palestinians just doesn't fly. The quilt complex over the Holocaust no longer gives you Zionist a free pass to scream antisemitic charges at anyone who disagrees with Israeli policy. You need to get politics out of your religion. The game is up. We no longer believe the propaganda rhetoric that smears the truth. I may not agree with Rachel Corrie's politics, but one thing for sure. The hatchet job done on her character is disgusting. It's worse then any Jew hating rhetoric I've ever heard by a ten to one margin.
It can reasonably be expected for the propaganda and smear machine to be refueled and put to work, on the back of private and taxpayer donations.
I see from the reaction to this "piece" that anti semites are abundant just ready to hop on the hate wagon every chance they have without checking for truth Hate consumes you, so be it I do hope you grow up though posting immature dribble is the norm on this site
By Israel's own admission, Hamas' rockets were stopped nonviolently by the ceasefire. Take a look at the article "Gaza War Crimes: Israeli Government Contradicts its Own 'Self-Defense' " by James Marc Leas. It's always been in Israel's interest to permit low-level violence against its civilians in order to be able to levy terrible policies on Palestinians.
Weigh what israel dropped in Gaza the first week and get back with me.
make sure you also boycott Jewish doctors when you get sick,jewish engineers,performers etc.. you misguided ingrates
How about adding US aid to Israel to the list.
If anyone but Israel had the same dispute withe Pals, there would never be such support of the Pals. See Darfur,Iraq, Afganistan, Kurds, Armenians etc. So you see it is a boycott of Jews
same thing..you boycott Israel you strike at the heart of Jews........
Whom you are trying to fool? This is precisely boycott of Jews.
Start boycotting Arabic dictators and Iranian fascists if you dare.
Now, Jews living in Olympia won't be able to get that delicious Israeli Gefilte fish they crave or those Yehudah Matzos that leave them begging for more. Unless they buy their American counterpart of course... I'm now convinced Manishewitz is behind this boycott.
is separate Zionism from Judaism. One a racist ideology, that rivals fascism. The other a respected religion of the world that Christianity spawned from.
Dan, Zionism is national liberation movement of the Jewish people, Judaism is religion of the Jewish people, Neither has anything to do with racism or fascism. Of f cause you know that, but because of the racist bias against the Jews you spread your hatred.
Time and time again, we've seen that Israel must be coerced to make peace. Israel, as a nation, profits more from war than from peace. It is a distorted place. Therefore, any move to ostracize Israel in any way, particularly in America and Europe where Israel derives its strength, is very important to the cause of peace and justice. Of course, when Israel signs a peace deal on the dotted line, these boycotts should be ended. Shalom, Salaam, PEACE
So all those organizations want peace with Israel? Send me their proposals please.
...and it is Israel's ONLY and one last chance.
Dan, if you don't know the proposals on table by now, you have your head firmly placed in the sands of the Negev desert. The PA has submitted the following proposals to Mitchell and have still not heard back from the modern state of Israel: 1967 borders with only minor changes. Sharing of Jerusalem. Refugees only return to the new state of Palestine. Foriegn troops in the new state of Palestine to monitor security arrangments. Citizenship available to Jewish settlers who wish to remain in their homes in the West bank. It's not that complicated.
To correct Ibrahim and others, there is no offer of peace on the table from the Palestinians. There is an offer to enter direct negotiations IF Israel first agrees that the basis will be 1967 borders. There is no offer to "share Jerusalem," but rather an offer to permit Jews to have access to the Western Wall. There has never been an official Palestinian acceptance that refugees will move to the new Palestine. The Arab Peace initiative calls for 194 to be implemented which is code for "right of return." Worst of all, there hasn't been a change in the Fatah or Hamas charters regarding acceptance of Israel as anything other than a "Palestine" that needs to be "liberated."
Have you actualloy read the text of the so-called "Arab Peace Initiative"? It demands much from Israel and guarantees nothing from Arab/Muslim states. The Arab league can not guarantee that the other 35 Muslim countries (such as Iran) will cease their states of war against Israel. They can't even guarantee that all the 22 Arab League states will do so, and everything is contingent on Israel fulfilling all their conditions BEFORE the Arab states make any move. This plan was presented with the caveat that it's non-negotiable and must be accepted as-is or not at all. There's no mention of non-state entities such as Hizballah, Hamas or al-Qaeda, all of whom have pledged to the destruction of Israel. Exactly what is it you're trying to sell?
Israel profits from innovative agricultural exports such as drip irrigation, from exports of ag products including flowers, from innovative medical products such as medication for multiple sclerosis, and others. Israelis pay a high price for war having to spend money on defending herself against those who surround her and have sworn to push her into the sea. Open your eyes and see the truth.
.The picture that comes to mind, is a horse with very large blinders.It seems that blinders are a new fad around here.The board were all wearing a pair the evening they made that vote.Also at that time , 40 people were there standing behind them coaxing and intimidating them into moving forward with a vote instead of the board taking some time to let other voices be heard and then vote. Also reminds me of Amadinejad' celebratory party after winning the last election. The sad part for me is that we are 10,000 members and 9,960 did not get to voice their opinion and this is a coop??? Shame on you!!!
When will this assault against Jewish products extend to Jewish stores and then extend to Jews being phyiscally assaulted in the streets and in their homes and in their synagogues. The basis for these boycotts are completely irrational, biased and unsupportable any evidence to substantiate them.
An antisemit used to be someone who hated Jews. It is now a label for someone a Jewish person hates.
The way I see it places like Olympia Food Co-Op are nothing more then the Gestapo People like them have blood on their hands if anything "bad" happens to Israel and the Jews
The term "anti-semite" is so bandied about that it is now nothing but a catchphrase to disparage anyone critical of Israel. It's the only thing they have left in thier defense.
And until JMK understands this and takes on a reasonable position without throwing slurs of Anti-Semitism around, the debate will decline. JMK. I suggest you Google Plan Dalet and have a look at one of the policies I am against. Events even today suggest that this Zionist policy of Ethnic Cleansing and land theft is ongoing. See. We oppose the policy. Not the Jewish people. I wish you well on your research with Google.
for antisemitism. what stuns me is how quickly you folks forget about the Hamas , rockets, building burnings, suicide bombers etc. why would a sane person allow the wicked to rearm and start the violence all over again. that is what the boycott is about, incldes building materials that could be used as bunkers, like hisbollah
I hate to break it to you, but this boycott is against Israel, not jews. I am positive there are many products sold at those stores that are made by jews from around the world, just not people from Israel.
Good way to talk yourself out of being a hater of Israel...the good ole I'm not anti Jew I'm anti Israel. So what you are saying you are anti about 200 Jews who are not Zionists...go tell this to your local shoemaker and watch him laugh himself silly.
Before you judge others you should first stop killing Kurdish woman and children. Eeee... what about Armenians, Cyprus,..mm
Israel IS THE Jewish State. Plan Dalet WAS a battle plan in the war for independence. The peripheral areas of Israel have never been "ethnically homogenous" as stated in the UN definition of the goal of ethnic cleansing. Jerusalem, the capital of Israel, has a 30% Arab population. The northern third of Israel was not long ago populated by a majority of Arabs. Israel is the Jewish State but she is also 20% Arab and has never wanted to be ethnically "cleansed".
I would hazard a guess that when and if the Arab armies surrounding little Israel invade and conquer her, there will be ETHNIC CLEANSING like the world has never seen!
America supports Israel a lot more than Olympia Foods. Maybe it would be a good idea to look up who Owns Olympia Foods. That would probably be an excellan clue to their crazy boycott.
we are member owned, by more than 15,000 people
Being from Olympia, I can assure you that the Evergreen State College sub culture is filled with mind numb zombies. They are among the most intolerant people I have ever seen. Just think Berkley on a smaller, but maybe more radical, scale. Blind political passion is plentiful. It would be scary if it were not so transparent and pathetic. As far as the Hasbara campaign is concerned, the Kool-aid these people drink may, in the end, prove too strong to overcome.
regardless of your outlook and sentiment this action is illegal under US
U.S. individuals may legally boycott or promote boycotts against U.S. allies (including Israel), but businesses can't. And the co-op seems to be a business. (But it is probably too small to bother with.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycott#Legality Just because Israeli politicians say it, doesn't mean it's true. I'd like to see either of you back up the claim that there's any law against boycotting US allies.
there was an old law from the 70's that prohibited US businesses from joining in the boycott called by the Arab states that does not apply to current bds efforts
I told sam16 that he "may" be right. I based my comment on the following and other US government web pages describing illegal boycotts by U.S. business entities: http://www.bis.doc.gov/complianceandenforcement/antiboycottcompliance.htm
Under US law it is illegal for any company to boycott Israel. They are free to boycott other allies. http://www.bis.doc.gov/complianceandenforcement/antiboycottcompliance.htm Conduct that may be penalized under the TRA and/or prohibited under the EAR includes: * Agreements to refuse or actual refusal to do business with or in Israel or with blacklisted companies.
Ah, I saw your earlier post. You wrote that it is not "illegal for Americans to boycott Israel." I think you are right, that it is not illegal for individual Americans to boycott any country. But you asked me to "back up the claim that there's any law against boycotting US allies." I did just that. For what it's worth, I first got involved in this subject to counter the claims that it's illegal for US individuals to boycott Israel. Not so.
There are a lot of rabid right wingers that are trying to distort the U.S. law. For those of you that want a summary version, below is a quote from the Wikpedia article. The US believes in free speach and supports the right to protest. Unlike the "most moral country in the world". "The EAR forbids participation in or material support of boycotts initiated by foreign governments, for example, the Arab League boycott of Israel. These persons are subject to the law when their activities relate to the sale, purchase, or transfer of goods or services (including the sale of information) within the United States or between the United States and a foreign country. This covers exports and imports, financing, forwarding and shipping, and certain other transactions that may take place wholly offshore.[7] However, the EAR only applies to foreign government initiated boycotts: a domestic boycott campaign arising within the United States that happens to also have the same object as the foreign-government-initiated boycott would appear to be lawful, assuming that it is an independent effort not connected with the foreign government's boycott "
Our Davis CA coop board attempted to declare a boycott advisory membership initiative illegal based upon a US Commerce Dept. statute. This statute only applies to boycotts against Israel that are part of foreign government's official policy. T
Will all these liberals who are protesting on the side of Hamas be happy when they win and they are able to take control of "Palestine" and kick and kill all the Jews out and turn "Palestine" into another Islamic Republic Oh I get it, you will be happy because then they will leave the "west" out of this battle Ultimately Liberals are just terrified of the Islamic Terrorists, and one of their demands is always to get the Israelis/Jews out of Palestine The Liberals are basically protesting on behalf of the terrorists because ultimately people only care about themselves in this world
I will not be joining the boycott and, in fact, I've been trying to help promote the sale of a new Israeli product to an American company. But I read some of your remarks and can only shake my head...It's the people on the far Left that are organizing the boycotts. It's those same people who most agree with your insults towards Americans. Your comments, such as Americans should give back stolen land, make reparations and so on are welcomed mostly by the anti-Israel Left, not the pro-Israel mainstream Americans. Keep insulting your friends and you won't have any. Comment with your head, not your emotions.
...you speak with the wisdom of one who has glimpsed the handwriting on the wall (re: the potential results of gratuitously insulting friends).
The sooner everyone in Israel/Palestine can resolve their issues the sooner tourism and commerce will increase with benefits for all-it's more sensational to speak of the negative-instead of the cooperative efforts that bring people together. So if you reply-post something that would make people want to come there to visit and feel safe to explore.
What will get you to quit pretending you know anything about international law?
Most countries defend themselves from within their own boiundaries, not by illegally acquiring territory, AGAINST international Law
tch tch tch lift your game
vision statement. it seems they have blinders on, since the discussion was apparently one sided. didn't discuss Palestinian lack of human rights, women smoking water pipes, or being part of a democracy. they are probably as most co-ops were from my generation, left over communes, populated by hippies. Peace brother, forget those rockets:)
I will also encourage people to boycott leftist co-ops.
Mostly Evergreen State could use some adult supervision when it comes to certain decisions. Such as when the powers that be allowed a tape recording of a convicted cop killer to adress the commencement some years back or for that matter annointing Rachael Corrie saint status - she never graduated Evergreen only attended for a short time. I doubt the school would ever encourage a student to enter a war zone and play tag with an Israeli tank.
this american won't buy anything form washington state now 2 can play this game
That would include Boeing and Apple farmers-both supporters of Israel.
Now you have convinced this American to stop purchasing Israeli products. Are all Intel chips made in Israel?
During a visit in January 2006, two Palestinians, one armed, entered the home of Samir Nasrallah, the Palestinian pharmacist whose former home Rachel Corrie had been trying to protect when she was killed.[6][60] Corrie's parents were staying overnight there, and it was reported that the gunmen had tried to kidnap them,[72][73] but had abandoned their plans when told who his guests were.[60] According to Nasrallah, the gunmen were seeking Americans as bargaining chips to secure the release of Alaa al-Hams, a Palestinian militia leader arrested by Palestine intelligence on suspicion of ordering the abduction of British human-rights activist Kate Burton and her parents.
if this is an isolated incident,make nothing of it.is it indicative of a trend,you may worry instead of badmouthing,and maybe see what can be done.people usually exaust their illusionary options,before becoming realistic.(to paraphrase).
what a waste, this girls parents should have kept her at home. now shes a martyr for those jerk-off terrorists. moreover and most importantly, she's standing for causes that plan and execute suicide bombings on civilians. way to go rachel
Their boycott will break Israel most food industries.
This is the key point: the battle "might be already lost at the campuses." And that is what Olympia Co-op represents. A generation that is the most tolerant of diversity, the most interested in the rights of all as a unity. It is a battle of non-violence, of infinite being and of justice. It is not "pro-palenstinian" nor is it "anti-israeli." In a single united humanity it is relentless peer pressure that is the weapon of choice, and they are learning quickly. All over the world. Listen.
You can rest assured they have not even considered a boycott against a host of oppressive regimes
They are just cowards for the most part, they know the Jews and the Israelis are outnumbered So they will side with the Muslims and the terrorists if they know that will bring the closest end to this conflict Like I said, I find all the Liberals and the Appeasers to be actually worse then the Muslims and the terrorists
I am sick of hearing right wing types calling all critics of Israel "liberals". I am liberal, and so were/are Teddy Kennedy, Barbara Mikulski, Chuck Schumer, Joe Biden, and many other of Israel's best allies. As a liberal, I am pro-democracy, pro-human rights, pro democratic values. I am completely opposed to religious fanatics, terrorists, mindless one-sidedness, dictatorships, etc., etc. Hamas, Hizbollah, al Qaida, and the like are everything I completely oppose. They offer nothing except hatred, violence, and destruction, and then play whining victims if anyone responds strongly to them. I also know history enough to know that appeasement doesn't bring peace; it only delays war. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try to make peace and reduce the possibility of war. However, religious fanatics (of whatever religion) should never be trusted, and should never be given concessions.
These same people who so vigourous boycott Israel are the same ones who remain so quiet when the mullahs of Iran stole the election and when a woman has been sentenced to stoning (after being buried) for adultry. That's just plain old Jew hatred.
If anything "bad" ever happens to Israel, at least we will know who are the people who supported its destruction
The is the best way to retaliate peacefully against Israeli inhumane behavior. Hit them in the pocket where it hurts most. I hope my government will stop sending my tax dollars to support Israeli land grabbing.
and the 10 commandements you should not kill all this came from ISRAEL
why should we just boycott Israel? As a peace lover, you should boycott all things made in America, because we are in two wars right now. Wars arn't peaceful. You might as well boycott anything from China--because as a lover of peace, I am sure you condemn their flagrant violation of human rights and their "occupation" of Tibet and the Uighyrs. As a believer in peace, I am sure you are angered by the Russian invasion of Georgia. Boycott Russia! And Africa? That mess cannot be described as "peaceful". I guess it would be easier to boycott the whole continent than to nit-pick through all those countries. Lets be honest--you won't boycott any of these people because you arn't really pro-peace my friend. LOL
I am peter of florida, and I am upset that Israel is better than me
Boycotting the bible is like boycotting a spiderman comic book, what's the point.
Good luck trying to find something made in America.
Israel has already boycotted the ten commandments and made a mockery of them..
Always need a cause. Be it just, unjust or misinformed. The facts are irrelevant to you. So you hold a couple rallies on left wing campuses and push through a couple meaningless boycotts, then when you read about them you can't wait to pad yourselves on the backs ignoring the facts. Most of these co-ops never sold Israeli goods to begin with, Israel's economy is a high-tech in nature so these boycotts don't affect it in any way. Evidence by a rise in Israel's total exports year over year. In fact, the low tech companies that are being boycotted like Ahava employ Palestinians and pay then a much higher wage than Palestinian companies. So when you boycott a company like Ahava you force their Israeli bosses to lay of working. Contributing to Palestinian poverty. Job well done
We feel it is wrong to boycott Israeli products - why - because it gives us a bad name and also it hurts us the most at the economic level once it gains momentum. How to stop this growing trend of 'Boycott Israel ' Simple we live in this world - accept it or not and we have to take into consideration the feelings of people and also what they (others) presume as right. We need to change our mind set ' Right or Wrong Israel' - We are nothing - not even 1% and if not for USA and Europe we would have been still a part of History - why don't we accept this fact. We should not alienate Americans - we already sowed the seeds - it is alive and out of ground now - if we do not correct ourselves ( Go back to 1967 borders (before the occupation))- Divide Jerusalem and let Palestinians live in their country with respect and we live in Israel with Peace - then only then our children and grand children will have a place to live peacfully and will have respect in the world we live in - nobody will be spitting on them as the world is spitting on us today.
If there was some way I could believe that your solution would be sufficient, I would be one of the first to support it. I feel the prolonged occupation of "the territories" has been terribly damaging to Israel. So have the settlements. However, unlike you, I have read the Hamas Covenant of 1988 and the Palestinian National Charter of both 1964 and 1968. Do you know that in 1964 the PLO denied all claims to the Gaza Strip, the West Bank and Jerusalem? As long as these areas were under Arab control, they were irrelevant to the PLO. They only became relevant after the 6-Day War, when they came under Israeli control. Did you know that Israel offered, in July 1967, to return all territories captured in the 6-Day War for a peace agreement with the Arab countries? The Arab response was the "Three Nos" of the Khartoum Accord: "NO peace with Israel, NO negotiations with Israel, NO recognition of Israel." How often do Ismael Hanyieh and Khaled Meshaal have to say that "there's no room for the Jews between the [Jordan] river and the [Mediterranean] sea" before you believe them? Please take the time to educate yourself before you make decisions that are so far-reaching.
I wish I could believe you. I'm ready to change but this Palestinian generation is lost and no viable peace is achievable. Let's hope for the next.
You can talk about what hamas wants until you are blue in the face. The fact of the matter is it doesn't matter what they want, it matters what the world wants. If and when Israel stops the occupation and withdraws to the 1967 borders, they will be viewed as legitimate in the eyes of the world. If a legitimate member of the international community is attacked, the entire world responds ala kuwait.
Just like all these peace activists People who have no clue about the conflict who are hoping to see Israelis killed And anyone who says they just want to see "Peace" is clueless about this conflict Did Rachel Corrie get what she deserved? Well I am under the impression it was an accident However I would like to see people like Rachel Corrie go to real "war zones" and protest real "corrupt" governments Ultimately people like Rachel Corrie and all these "Western" peace activists are terrified of the Islamic terrorists, and they know one of the demands of the Islamic Terrorists is for the Jews to get out of the land of "Palestine" so they know this and fight on the side of the "Palestinians" If this is the case with Rachel Corrie and the people who think like her, then they deserve any bad thing they get
Let the venom flow......
That, frankly was a pathetic response and a sorry attempt at slandering and legitimizing humanitarian work if i ever saw it. Israel is an occupying power. It is brutally doppressing the Palestinians. She and many others are standing up for Human rights. Maybe you understand the term?
,,,they know it was a war crime, and it upsets them so they lash out.
ying to protect the home of a Palestinian. ShIn reply to No 84 .K. I have a suggestion for you, look at the film and see how she died. She was unarmed just like the Foltilla Humanitarian Aid Workers. She was tre was in no way a treat to Israel. Well done to the town of Rachel Corrie. Hopfully Caterpillar will stop suppling war machines to Israel. You have the support of the Irish people because we know what oppression is.
No, actually most people in the US are very familiar with the Israeli side of the story. The problem for Israelis is that when Americans begin to hear about the Palestinian side of things, they tend to side with them - as we're increasingly seeing today.
...It is all about the truth. no matter what the truth always surfaces. sooner or later
Is that why in recent polls, Israel has the highest popularity rating with Americans that it's had in 20 years? You anti-Israelis are morons... and liars to boot.
group that thinks that 7000 Hamas rockets were balloons for love children. it also implies that success is frowned. and after all Israel and the Jews are successful. BTW the majority of Americans who side with you are 15-20% mostly Arabs isuspect
keep up the good work. Nothing destroys a brand better than having it become a laughingstock. You'll know your work is done when a SF show has a character who makes those sorts of claims while the rest of the characters quietly mock him. BTW, to claim that the people making this decision were 'not aware of the facts' is a little farfetched given the innundation of American news broadcasts and internet sites with the Israeli version of what the 'facts' are.
Are you familiar with the fact that Palestinian Arabs began massacring Jews in 1920? Jews didn't start fighting back until the mid 1930's. Are you familiar with the fact that Arafat rejected a state and launched an intifada instead? What about the fact that nearly 1 million Jews were wiped out of the rest of the Middle East (most of whom were laboriously settled in Israel)? Are you familiar with those few things?
I hope they also boycott Saudi Arabia, where women can't drive, Syria, and the myriad other Arab countries that oppress their populations. While they are at it, they should boycott countries from Africa where civilians are slaughtered... Oh, and the biggest boycott: The US...who killed thousands upon thousands of civilians in Iraq. Far more than any intifada or war in Lebanon or Gaza. Hypocrisy born of anti-Semitic. Nothing more, nothing less.
and yes they should not buy gas from the middle east and not carry turkish apricots but they are hypocrites so what do you expect.BTW the guy from the coop Board,Rob Richards,said that the decision drew no protests but that was because NO ONE other than the pro palestinian group was at that meeting and NO ONE in the membership was informed of the possible vote.WAY TO GO OLYMPIA FOOD COOP. Shame on you!!!!!!
I'm sure when a member of their community is crushed by a Saudi bulldozer they will start a boycott.
To Whom it May Concern: By boycotting Israeli products, you are entering a brave new world. I sincerely hope you and yours are healthy because so many inventions such as the stent (for one) and myriad medications, can no longer be used by you, your families, or your employees; plus it will be hard to give up a business that depends on the internet which runs on so many Intel inventions and products, not to mention cell phones but I feel sure you can manage to live in the Middle Ages. I presume not being hypocrites, you would also boycott Arab inventions and products (if there were any) in the name of peace and honor such as suicide bombings, children being used as human shields, honor killings, female genital mutilation and their refusal to make any gesture for peace. Too bad we can't convert hate into electricity......
If you are looking for Arab inventions perhaps you should start with a little thing called writing.
This is not only very good news but it is indicative of a direction and a movement that is growing. The seeds have been planted and now they are beginning to sprout around the country. Perhaps the parents of Tom Hurndal can initiate another movement in the UK. As Israel becomes simply another South Africa in the days of the aprtheid regime, the course of action is clear and being recognised by more and more. Please contact the Olympia co-op and commend them for their moral stand on this issue. It is the only way Israel will change.
This is not a victory for whats morally good. Basically what has happened here is a bunch of moral hypocrits have been screwed in the head to believe Israel is the big bad wolf. Israel is like South Africa. This is a classic example of where you keep telling a lie it becomes the truth. Kids and people generally in America do not think or problem solve for themselves. People are told on thing and think its the truth. Don't go breaking that Champagne bottle yet. One measly store in some small piss ass city may be a one time phenomenum.
maybe you should have lived in South Africa to have understood what you are writing about - you have no clue and are very ignorant of the real truth and facts
Looking at the number of answers, it looks like this is not good news. A little drop in the US. The last bastion of forced love to israel. As they say, a big river start with a little drop.
The propaganda is simply not working as it has in the past. As for "one measly store in some small piss ass city" that too is typical and it is indicative of the level of your freustration in the failure of your cause which has betrayed any ideals it may have had a long time ago. As for morally good I would not look to Israel for that any more than I would South Africa of days gone by, a regime strongly supported and propped up by Israel. One thing i am sure of and that is this is not a "one time phenomenum" but a growing movement in spite of the Daniel Pipes and The likes of The Israel Project. You are simply loosing ground. Good luck.
It has never taken courage to single out Jews
The math is simple. You dont want to piss off 3 billion chinese, or a 1 a billion muslims for calling out their legitimate atrocities. You what havoc the latter will cause on the streets. Safe bet are the 13 million jews. They won't cause any physical violence and murder. As I stated before this boycott was created out of moral hypocrisy. It will not survive.
Evergreen State is a great college. However, the extreme left on that campus is both vocal and over represented at the college; and is often at odds within the community. I don't know much about this food co-op, but I doubt that they carried any Israeli goods at any time.
"What's needed is education on the facts," Mizrahi says. Lies lies lies, the Zionists chosen path. Just throw some words out there for public consumption (paintball guns anyone?) doesn't matter what the truth is, just lie lie lie.
No, it's no good. I still don't understand what on earth you are saying?
are you serious? she was a manic depressive, schizo who probably was picked on as a kid and some how found a cause to rally for. weirdo got what she deserved.
perhaps one of the ugliest sentiments i've ever seen expressed
because Ive seen way nastier stuff written about jews and israel
It speaks volumes bout you morally bankrupt zionists and Israel supporters that you will go as low as to malign the memory of a brave soul like her. But i see it as no surprise. You Zionists defend the indefensible,
i wonder how many germans said that about the jews
After all, didn't Israeli politicians claim that it was illegal for Americans to boycott Israel? Oh wait, they were lying.
to boycott all Israeli products but we should do our best to do anything we can to avoid buying products that help fund ther zionist dreams.We can hit israel where it hurts(in the pocket).When companies start to fold one by one then maybe, The Israelis wont be able to afford to steal,kill and hurt their nieghbours.I avoid Israeli food products and I use hacked antivirus and always buy AMD proccessors.A little goes a long way! When Israel learns to behave then I will support them but not before the palestinians are satisfied
I suggest not using anything Intel, do not buy a disc on key, do not use any messenger service, as Israelis came up with the idea... anyways you slice it, your day to day actions in one way or another pays royalties to Israelis. The solutions? just kill yourself.
People of Scotland are a lost tribe of Israel so you should be more careful about what you boycott but If you do so I should not buy not scotch anymore i buy Irish whiskies instead
Is that when you will support Israel? Thanks a lot. Very fair-minded
"We have two members on the board from the Jewish community who were supportive of the boycott – it’s (a) pretty progressive town."
Rachel Corrie was an extremist, with a chemical imbalance who found a cause she can express herself in via the 'plight of the Palestinians.' Furthermore, the entire anti-Israel movement on campuses is just a reflection of the overly-liberal ideologies held by the ignorant masses that attend said universities. These same goofball kids idolize people like Che Guevara; a cold blooded killer. Whats sad is the fact that their influence is spreading throughout their local communities. Way to take a step backwards.
A boycott based on moral hypocrisy will never succeed. Those that support such malicious activity are directly accountable for aiding and promoting anti semetism and the delegimization of Israel.
How about a country based on moral bankruptcy?
however, in view of their boycotting behaviour they arent fair at all. it's simply disgusting what they are doing.
Liberalism hates Jews. So why are most American Jews liberals? Does it mean that they hate themselves?
the obvious and true answer is that liberalism does not hate jews. what a stupid remark
disturbed, wing nuts, on the far,far left, are the self sacrificing types that dont have strong Jewish identification and make headlines. Jews are liberal, they were and are in the forefront of civil, and human rights and progressive legislation.Unions for examplw
go to olymia co-op fill your trolley and when you get to the cash - leave the laden trolleys and walk out in protest
.. is a kind of terrorism. All that Olympia ever did to you, was leaving you to live in perfect peace - with yourselves.
So your response is typical of the disgusting, vile policies of the government you praise. Vindivtive and spiteful are not traits that will win over a moral poppulation, so you have already lost out while the people of the Olympia Co-0p have already won.
before posting. thank you.
Sabotage is what Olympia is doing to a democracy - get your facts straight
Actually, what Paul is suggesting is just a very mild version of the nasty tactics of the left
typical israeli, pro-israeli response: bullying critics into silence. years ago the word "jewish" recalled the world of the mind and a deep humanism; now, sadly, something very close to fascism is replacing that proud heritage.
Surely what Olympia Coop are doing is democratic. They had a democratic vote on whether to boycott Israel, they voted for it. You can choose not to shop at Olympia to show your disgust. That is what democracy is all about.
wrong - Hamas an internationally recognized terrorist group with a mandate to destroy Israel is being treated like a saint by you - all Israel is trying to do is prevent war and killing on both sides. Israel sends in 100's of tons of aid every week to Gaza and check out how many Gaza citizens go to Israeli hospitals for treatment - Josh open your eyes , take the blinkers off - Olympia is wrong and should re-think this disgusting racist policy
"An Israeli diplomatic source told Haaretz that the boycott issue is being checked, and although it seems like a marginal incident. The source added that 'we are concerned about every attempt to delegitimize Israel.' " I think this source misinterprets BDS campaigns. This has nothing to do with delegitimization. In fact, these people are taking Israel very serious, and hope to hold it responsible for its actions. Instigating a boycott is not the same as denying a country's right to exist. I would say to this diplomat: Don't get caught up in Bush rhetorics, like "if you're not with us, you're against us." You can (and sometimes must) be quite critical without actually being against someone or something.
"Blessed be those who bless you and cursed be those who curse you"
Israel has put on the Palestinians? Think you'll get blessed for that?
The board vote for the boycott was done on the quiet,with no forum for dissenting voices!!. A boycott of the coop is underway!!people are handing in their memberships in protest. This is only the beginning.The coop made a serious mistake
Or is it just wishful thinking?
Impose a real label on all products coming from this region. No more fake labels, Create a label for 'Products from colonies', one label from 'Israel'. So much easier when a real country has real borders. And let the consumer chose.
I guess Israel is held to a much higher standard than her neighbors. Should we boycott goods from countries that violently suppress free speech? How about those that stone adulterous women? How about refusing to prosecute murderers who kill in 'honor killings'. And keep in mind these are policies of state, not terrible mistakes made under very difficult circumstances. Those of you who say and may even believe that they are anti-zionist, not anti-jewish, should look carefully in the mirror - when you apply a different standard you are simply being bigoted - in this case anti-semetic in the truest sense.
Does "yes" sound alright to you? Yes we should boycott products from states that violently suppress free speech. Yes we should boycott products from states that stone (supposedly) adulterous women. Yes we should boycott products from countries that refuse to prosecute murderers who kill in "honour killings". And yes, I do try to do this. I don't know how you reach the conclusion that Israel is held to a higher standard than its neighbours, I think you will find that there are much more Israeli products being sold in EU/US than Iranian or whatever.
It is you who should look into the mirror. Those of us who have never been anti-semitic and who supported "littlel Israel" in the past are seeing a new Israel which is full of arrogance, hubris and hatred. We can and do disrespect Israel for all of its disregard fot the UN (which "gave" Israel its county in the first place. You look into the mirror and see what we see!
Your question about boycotting entities that are anti-social, immoral, and illegal and concluding that since you don't boycott such things therefore others that do boycott such things must be bigoted agaist you is self serving and wrong. At the heart of so much of Israeli self righteous justification is the false assertion that those who protest Israeli actions don't work to protest injustices anywhere else. Perhaps you see too much of yourselvesin other peoples which is not there - when most of the world boycotted South Africa Israel was selling them weapons - what do you thin - do I have a point?
Name one black African nation that didn't do business with South Africa, when the world boycotted South Africa. You can't, because they all did!!! But, you already knew it prior to sending your deliberately misleading post to this blog.
Occupy, steal land, settle, blockade, restrct and humiliate 3Million Pals, imprison 10,000 Pals, drop cluster bombs at civilians, fire phosphorous shells at civilians, shoot women carrying white flags, shoot a Pal in the foot while he is shackled and blindfolded, just for fun, shoot and kill Pals and Americans and Europeans when they protest, etc.
This is ridiculous, who are these people that try these boycotts.....just boys?
Can you blame them? An innocent girl was murdered by the Israelis you can argue she was misguided or being used but you cannot argue that the incident was sugar coated. The "investigation" was laughable can anyone say that after Rachel was murdered that justice was done? I know a lot of Israelis are going to make apologies and try to support the laughable arguments of the Israeli investigation. The reality is that if Israeli had had a real investigation a credible investigation these types of actions would never materialize accident or murder the case would have been closed but Israel has a history of moving from one whitewashing investigation to another designed not to find the truth on the contrary these investigations history has proven are designed only to minimize blame but they have had the opposite effect Israel has lost all credibility to the point where their investigations are irrelevant no one expects the real truth to come from any Israel investigation and that is why the world now demands independent international investigation. Israel should save their effort whenever they get the notion to perform an investigation or they should now begin to perform real open and honest investigation designed to find the truth good, bad or ugly.
I love these guys who pretend to know the "true facts" on anything, as long as they "prove" that Israel "bad". I wonder if you have noticed, but the world isn't really just black and white. And there are acidents, in real life, even in Israel. But never for you.
and promise to take clear action so such "accidents" will never happen again
So it was no flaw that the first investigation in the death of Tom Hurndall (whose killer will be released next month while Tom Hurndall will still be dead) found no wrongdoing at all and that only strong British pressure was able to prdouce a real investigation that resulted in a prison sentence??? Reactions like yours are a good reason not to trust Israeli investigations any more!
Promise such accidents w'ont happen ? Israelis, alone among all nations, are guilty when accidents happen. In America there are no accidents.Read the civilians being killed in Afganistan,Iraq, etc
The first investigation (done without pressure came to the truthful conclusion. The 2nd investigation was predetermined by British pressure to find fault, and calm the anger.
Some interesting hypocrisy emerges here. It seems some wish to claim that boycotting other countries they agre violate human rights is not so important because they dont claim to be democracies. Interesting-so if countries are not westernized democracies they are off the hook? I think this pin points a useful and upsetting philosophy-there is far less concern for all the Muslims being killed or oppressed, or Kurds killed or oppressed, when it occurs in Muslim states than if it happens elsewhere. You simply dont care about human life-you only care about holding Israel to a standard you ignore elsewhere-that is the definition of anti-semitism.
how come no one is talking about the murderous act that the IDF committed when they bulldozed Rachel Corrie, a human being and a peace activist? does no one here feel the "moral imperative" to bring the purpetrators to justice? or shall we settle for smoke and mirrors to deflect the issue? will that clear your conscience? ask yourselves!
the cat is out of the bag and this crap about anti-semitism when it is clearly misattributed is no longer working. I don't think this co-op would support buuying Congolese diamonds, or Iranian olive oil or Al Queda camel dung. Nor will they buy Israeli products which help support a country that is oppressing another people.
I object to your definition of peace Activist. To me that is a person who truly wants Peace among people-not deligitimizing one people for the sake of another. Moreover, I question whether those who challenge Israeli action in Gaza would also challenge Hamas action, e.g., the mass killing of PA supporters, the subordination of women, the encouraging of youth to hate through direct media incitement and you would not believe how kids shows glorify suicide bombing, and use old anti-semitic rhetoric, and a charter that calls for the extermination of all Jews. Seems to me that Peace activists could find more suitable partners in their pursuit of peace.
They could elect a government that would end the illegal policy of settling their citizens on occupied land that under international law can only be used for the benefit of the lawful occupants, or at most siezed temporarfily for legitimate military purposes. Its their choice, since they live in what they, themselves, call the only democracy in the middle east. All the more reason to punish them for their government's illegal conduct.
Dear Yaacov, I am not one pulls the anti-semitism switch whenever I srael is criticized and have been critical of oppressive policy in Israel myself. However, whether the co-op may or may not buy products from other regimes is beyond what you know about its operarion. It is that my approach to conflict is quite different and focuses on trying to understand concerns of both sides and what both sides suffer. In israel even on the political left the leaving of Gaza followed by the rocket attacks from Hamas sets up a paradigm, which is indeed scary. Some may be inappropriate paranoia, but some is based on a reasoned wisdom that Hamas' stated agenda is the elimination of jewish people. So what is key is to encourage israeli withdrawal while assuring that it will not be followed by enhanced jihadist militancy, i.e., rockets shot from the west bank at communities in Jerusalem..
Yes, there are strong influences by the Rabinate but the Supreme court operates independently and often makes decsions for the land that are contrary to Rabbinic intention. Moreover, most of the Govt leaders are secular in their approach..
The co-op in question has a mission statement which you can read. I can assure you they do not buy products from rogue regimes. I cannot agree with you on Israel leaving Gaza. You see they did not leave Gaza through a negotiated agreement. They left unilaterally for a number of reasons, some tacitical and some strategic. Their colonies there were no longer sustainable in terms of military needs or economically. Sharon anted to concentrate on solidifying the take over of the WB and EJ. Also Israel, as we can see remains in virtual control of Gaza until today. The population is being punished for electing Hamas, which was behind in the polls before Israel took certain punitive measures against the population. In almost ever case, when Hamas declared and respected a hudna, you will find that Israel found a pretext for breaking it. I refer you to the Gush Shalom weebsite. Hamas has never expressed theri goal of eliminating the Jewish People but the zionist state which they see as having stolen Palestine.
Compare yourself with Western Standards. Its israel that claims to be a democracy. Its israel that claims a Moral Army. israel can not stand up compared to western standards.
Because this is Rachel Corrie hometown they have bought into all the false propaganda put out there. At the end of the article it states"the battle "might be already lost at the campuses." This is true in many cases, The PR campaign by the Arab world began to target U.S. college campuses back in the early 80's, they understood they needed to change public perception in the U.S. and took over the universities. Now American students are taught all the lies from the Arab world without any counter arguments. Even the R. Corrie case is a classic example, the first picture out on the AP showed her standing in front of the bulldozer. Few people know that picture was taken 3 hours before the incident. Most people incorrectly believed it was taken moments before she died...and that was the intent...to mislead the western press and people of good will. While her death was tragic and I grieve for her family it was an accident. To attack an entire country for this incident is simply wrong, and using "treatment of the Palestinians", whatever that means, as an excuse is just BS.
only the arab point of view is heard in the US??? you, my friend, are living in bizzaro-world
only place u see it and only on some, Jews still prevail. as for Olympia, their corporate vision uses the words, social justice, but apparently not for Jews, no discussion about rockets, kidnapping , civil liberties , woman's rights, suicide bombs in Gaza. Well
The only voices of reason come from Hillel Students Unions at US College Campuses. Go Hillel!
Mark, I think you misunderstood or maybe the article wasn't clear as to why Israel is being boycotted. In 2005, Palestinian civil society issued a call for help -- for a nonviolent means to end Israel's aggression and oppression. Israel is practicing apartheid (as well as Colonialism. See the 300-pg report titled "Occupation, Colonialism, Apartheid?: A re-assessment of Israel's practices in the occupied Palestinian territories under international law," by a committee led by South African jurist John Dugard ). BDS, boycott divestment and sanctions helped to bring South African apartheid to an end when there wasn't yet the political will in governments to do so. It's the lack of political will to end Israeli apartheid that is inspiring so many around the world to join in the Palestinian civil society call for bds.
Do you realy believe that her death was an accident? then killing a young british man was an accident? Then shooting another american women was an accident? then killing about 50 arab villagers who was unaware of curfew was an accident? then sinking an american war ship and killing 37 servicemen was an accident? then killing 9 people on the high sea was an operational accident? then something must be wrong with what you are doing then
All have said the same thing Israel bares no comparison whatsoever to what on during that time in S. Africa. It simply is a PR slander to attack Israel without factual foundation. The people who lived in S. Africa and now live in Israel would know better than you or I.
which would explain their point of view
I hope "Peace Oil" removes it's products from their shelves. A boycott of Israel will only increase divisiveness within Israel, where in more places then not Arabs and Jews work shoulder to shoulder.
because I prefer to buy Israeli goods due to their good quality and taste.
GOD BLESS YOU LUCY AND ALL YOUR FAMILY. DANNY.
In the article ,Rob Richards says there was no opposition.That is true because NO ONE was informed about the possible vote! The only ones there at the meeting and the only voice heard were anti- Israel voices.Due Process??? Hipocrites!!!! There is an enormous amount of opposition but we are just passing word around.Haaretz readers are hearing about it before people in Olympia that belong to the store !!!! Rob from the board at the coop has his head in the clouds!! Hipocrites!!
they would really would get mad on how the Palestinians are treated by Israel. How Israel thinks it can give its side of it and ommit the true facts about the treatment of Palestinians is beyond me. But something tells me you will all your powers for your own selfish hasbara.
and that is precisely what bothers the zionist lobby and its front organisations, ie The Israel project, so much. Their work at hasbara is becoming more and more difficult because the truth is getting out and they are becoming less and less effective. The direction is moving in that taken by the Olympia co-op, not the opposite.
this students get together to drink and smoke pot on weekends to talk about boycotts and how wonderful el che guevara was, I wonder if they could do that under a hamas regime or in any arab country, ridiculous.
a moral imperative ??? that goes beyond any financial concern !!! Tricky statement.They know that they are going to increase the sales by Muslims and Al Qaida lovers
to all of those boycotting Israel and our products they should stop using Motorola, cells phone, and the following items How to boycott Israel If you really want to stop Israel, please follow these simple instructions: In your office or home, do not use any computers, as Israel developed the Intel Pentium chip, Windows MP, XP and Vista as well as Microsoft Office and AOL IM instant messaging. Also remove your firewalls, as these were developed in Israel. In your home and car, do not use cellphones that were developed in Israel by Motorola, as was voice mail and camera phones. Quickly destroy your TV remote control, as this also was developed in Israel. Now for your health: Do not under any circumstances let your gastroenterologist use the camera pill you swallow that photographs your esophagus, colon, etc. Just let him ram his scope up your backside. That will show those Zionists who's in charge. Don't use Copaxane for MS. If you have a heart attack, do not let the surgeon put in a stint, which was developed in Israel, or use a defibrillator on you. Also decline the new Israeli medication for Parkinson's or Ex Ablate 2000 if you have fibroid tumors. We'll show 'em
Oh, about Motorola, no worries, it was an american company, bought by israelis, and then failed and now is a finnish company as it has been bought by Nokia...no reason to boycott it at all.
Man, israeli is the world biggest producer for generic-non-patented drugs....Tell people that if you want to have a real boycott. Tell them the names of these companies (I will not) but, that will truly help people boycott israel. You are a retard.
They were fabricated in Israel only... they could have been fabricated anywhere in the world. Israeli companies one the bid to fabricate only "developed" implies that Israeli invented but it is obvious that Israel did not invent the vast majority of the things you mentioned. Israeli companies are great of putting fabrication bids together and are great for delivering high quality products on spec. provided by their customers such as Microsoft, IBM, Motorola, etc, etc. they draw the plans up and provide the successful winner of the bids the plans need for these companies to build their product
Then it can go without steel, cars, airplanes, tvs, computers, tires, air conditioners, heavy equipment, dry wall, machinery to plant and harvest crops, cloths, cat scans, MRIs, ships, ..power plants, machinery to make funiture washing machines, dryers, ovens, ect ect ect....have a good boycott
The inventor of the cellphone is an American called Martin Cooper. Generic drugs are those whose patent has run out and forms other than the inventors can produce them. The NHS to protect from forgeries buys all drugs from the people who invented them. Microsoft is owned by Bill Gates, he is an American, and Microsofts headquarters are situated in California, which is not part of Israel. Dr Adler the inventor of the tele remote control is Austrian who moved to the United Sattes. Just because he was Jewish doesn't make the invention Israeli.
Your computer may have been built in the US but there is a chance and quite a high one the Intel chip was built in Israel. Also you mentioned the NHS and their drug suppliers. Did you know one of the largest suppliers of drugs to the NHS is Teva an Israeli company. Can I ask you if you were perscribed a perscription by your Doctor and found that the drugs given to you when you got home were made by Teva would you take them or throw them away??
claimed to have invented every technology in use at the time. Please provide proof of these claims.
I have also given up Starbucks, Coca-Cola, and Nestle products. As I learn of other companies that are Israeli or support Israel with money, I boycott those as well.
Your doctor give you a prescription and the pahrmacy give you a generic if the doctor do not opt for the real thing. Doctor never prescribe TEVA, and you can tell your pharmascist to give you another generic. anyway. Easy!
but one day you might not live w/o life supporting israeli products. well reno, if you live in reno makes sense, you are a gambler. yup throw away the meds.
I have just checked all my drugs that I take on a regular basis. they are produced by MSD, Schering-Plough, Reckitts Colman. Rest assured if there was an alternative drug which would do the same job I would ask my Doctor if he could prescribe that particular drug instead of an Israeli one. As for when I have emergency treatment obviously I cannot have a say in the matter. But it is very unlikely that it is a drug invented and produced in Israel and apparently it would likely have been manufactured outside of Israel usually in Ireland on behalf of Teva. As for Intel it is not an American owned company and I have enquired from a friend who builds computers who says he sources his Intel chips from the United States where they are manufactured..
Starbucks pulled out of Israel five years ago because no one drank their abominable coffee.
because they support Israel with their money, not because they have/had stores in Israel. Agreed, they have terrible coffee, but great raspberry chocolate cheesecake.
I don't live in Reno.
throw away the meds.
The Hand Outs
When I was in college, they boycotted South African companies. Israel was everyone's darling. Being a volunteer on a kibbutz was popular with young Europeans who would flock there over the summers. Talk about a sea change. It's a line out of a movie, "How did things come to this?"
Olympia Food, How dear you boycott an entire country because you disagree with some of their action! How dear you try to exploit this trend for the improvement of your business, catering to a crowed that will think it is cool! How dear you hurt me like this personally. I don't even know you guys, you don't know me and just like that you decided that my country's products are not worthy of selling? That not all is perfect with Israel I admit. But check yourself in the mirror! How do you behave when your neighbor fights with you! Both sides are not innocent here. So not right,
OLYMPIA FOOD CO. SHOULD ALL GO IN DRED ESPECIALLY THE DIRECTORS. PERHAPS WE CAN GET PRO ISRAELI PEOPLE TO BOYCOTT THIS FIRM. IM SURE WE CAN.
and asking them to stay strong in the face of intimidation and threats. And John, ask yourself how you would behave when your neighbour threats you like an animal in the zoo?
I have e'mailed my support for their decision to boycott Israeli products and produce . I have also put it on the Boycott Israel website explaining that the coop is being subjected to a concerted campaign by Israelis.
Remember they live in the town of Rachel Corrie and they know how truthful the Israeli government is so I don't think any number of zionist hacks will dissuade them from doing what they did.
Your message made me sad, John. Please know that boycott is not intended to hurt ordinary Israelis. It is meant to stop the flagrant oppression of your government, though much of it done with the blessing of ordinary Israelis because your government has lied to you. The muckraker Izzy Stone said "all governments lie" and I think that's true. But your government's lies are hurting others around the world as well as hurting Palestinians. All countries should be held equally accountable to international law. I think Israel is a good country to focus on BECAUSE it holds itself out as a democracy and because it's receiving 3 billion a year of my US tax dollars while 18,000 Americans die every year from lack of health care. MY $ is enabling Israel to kill, maim, torture, steal, incarcerate in concentration camps, and take the lives of millions of Palestinians (yes, life can be taken even though the victim still draws breath). The peace offer is on the table. Pre-1967 borders, a shared Jerusalem, and the honoring of UN Res 194 for the Palestinian right of return (the negotiators came close at Taba to working this out but then Ehud Barak pulled the plug on the negotiations). All of the Arab states have signed on to the 2002 offer; most if not all the non-Arab Islamic states; and the Palestinians including Hamas! So the problem appears to be Israel. Israel has been engaging in its own p-i-e-c-e plan -- working hard to capture more and more Palestinian land -- most recently the village of Walaja. The apartheid wall is about to take that village's land and put it on the Israeli side of the wall. Hillel defined the essence of Judaism as the Golden Rule: if you'd find it abhorrent, don't do it to someone else. Since Israeli gov't policy and practice ignore Jewish values, it's up to bds (boycott, divestment and sanctions) to see that Palestinian needs, rights, freedom and security are regarded as seriously as are Israeli or American or anyone's needs, rights, freedom and security.
and work in wall street. so i have first hand experience with suicide bombers. i will also remind them of the 62 year war they didnt think of and if i find away on the east coast , i will boycott them
of Israel as a Jewish state and the end of the Arab war against Israel.
seem to be dwindling, even amongst the Jews.
Gee, will these "progressives" also boycott our technologies that are pervasive across medicine, industry, the internet, and, well, basically everywhere? No, I suspect they won't. These are insular people living in an insular place and can fool themselves into believing what they are doing is correct.
The Israeli contribution is miniscule despite what you delusional brain believes.
...come to a grinding halt were it not for Israeli manufacturers. And humanitarian aid would come to nothing without brave Israeli doctors. Or alternatively, that these Talkbacks confirm the elitist and supramacist mindsets of Zionists. "We're better that everybody else. We're chosen". Very sad.
That would explain why Israeli has more companies on NASDAQ than all of Europe combined (and second only to the US). Also why we have more patents filed per capita of any nation on earth. Get your facts straight.
being insular people living in an insular state?? Wow, the pot calling the kettle black. The entire accusation in this post describes Israel to a tee.
What's really sad is that I can't think a single thing your country, Norway, produces that I could not easily live without. BTW- I live here, why are you so interested in Israel? Is Oslo even duller than I thought?
your comment demonstrates only the [unholy] alliance between the US and Israel, nothing more.
institutions use Israeli security software sold thru a very large American company. and then their are the joint partnerships in medicine, chemistry and weapons. and folks like warren Buffet are investing in or buying up Israeli companies. BTW i work with that software it is very good , world wide and very advanced.
Letting her get in front of that tractor was a big mistake.
I believe running her over with a BULLDOZER was a big mistake. They could have just arrested her instead, and then continued doing their dirty business.
No, Rachel Corrie's death wasn't an accident. But it wasn't the IDF who killed her, it was the terrorists who placed her and other naive activists in the most dangerous place to ensure that she would be hurt in the event of a confrontation. These young people are perfect fodder for Palestinian PR and it works time and time again. As for the boycott, as always carried out by a tiny minority in secret and then the general public is presented with a fait accompli. Why does this US supermark continue to sell US products - after all their army has been murdering innocent people in Afghanistan and Iraq for years? The same goes for the UK army. At least we are defending ourselves - what are they doing?
the isreaeli military is expert at rolling bulldozers over protesters, shooting them or maiming them for life. They are one big mafiaosa.
Kind of like claiming the Israeli Commandos were just peacefully minding their own business on helicopters when the activists threw ropes up to them and dragged them onto the Flotilla Ship? Or the holocost victims voluntarily went to the concentration camps because they knew they could get a free shower there? Give me a break. Even you know that is not true.
RECENTLY I TRAVELED TO THAT "LIBERAL" TOWN AND WHEN I HEARED OF THE POLITICAL SCREWED UP UPROCH I GOT MY FOOD IN ANOTHER STORE, AND I SPENT OVER $100 BUCKS.
HERTZEL MAY YOU LIVE TO 120 YEARS IN GOOD BREOOT. DANNY TAWIL.
Believe me, progressive Americans who spend BIG will flock to the co-op. See you all there :-)
Why not have an epiphany and take your irrelevant subject matter elsewhere.
Boycott from within is essential to raise the level of the struggle. As many internationals here, I ALWAYS GO TO PALESTINIAN PUBLIC PLACES, STORES AND RESORTS, WHEN POSSIBLE. Drink only palestinian water and beer. Help the Palestinian economy to bloom.
I like taybeh but i have no reason to stop drinking goldstar as well.
They are both nasty....get some real beer!
Hopefully this boycott is contagious …. Israel needs to feel a painful pinch to halt and evaluate the direction it is heading to.
then there is not a company on the planet that will not boycott Israeli products. If in Rachel Corrie's hometown there is widespread abhorrence at the conduct of the IDF and the lack of prosecution of her murderer why not cash in on it? Nothing personal it's business.
Can't find them anywhere so I have to settle for Turkish or Californian. Who knows what's been done to them,they look nice taste like water... but it's nothing personal, it's business.
Personal choice, if people want a specific Israeli product badly enough they will buy it. If this particular store can provid an equivalent product at the same price they might opt for that option instead of running around town. Now if jointly they make a personal choice to avoid buying Israeli products then surely in a democracy that is their right regardless of the number of countries Israel can cite as being more badly behaved than Israel is. And if there is a groundswell of opinion in say the hometown of Rachel Corrie where they avoid buying Israeli produce, why shouldn't this company make it official policy in the hope of increasing footfall in their stores? As I said it's just business. The danger being that this boycott becomes so successful that other stores in Rachel Corrie's hometown have to join in, and it spreads to neighbouring towns.
Chris have a read of this below and then tell me if you will tell all the people dependent on taking medication today in the UK to stop taking it immediately if in the if it is made by Teva? (Teva Uk is the UK arm of the largest generics company in the world, and the company that supplies more packs of medicines to the NHS than any other)
It is personal choice. I wouldn't tell anyone to do aything they didn't want to do. However, if there was an alternative that did the exact same job, I would make them aware of it if they wanted to boycott Israel and asked me for their help. I am not going around saying boycott Israel I am supporting those who make the decision themselves on the evidence that they see in their media. We live in a democracy not the Iran, it is all down to personal choice, obviously if I show enough people images of dead children in Lebanon and Israeli children drawing graffiti on the shells which caused the dead children in Lebanon I will do. No doubt you are busy showing dead Israeli children and diametrically opposite images of Hezbollah demonstration liberally sprinkled with death to Israel. It's a democracy it is what we do. That is what this entire talkback is about, Israelis and IIsrael firsters are trying to stem calls for a boycott. Those who oppose Israel are supporting people who are boycotting Israel and encouraging more to join in.
Rachel Corrie was an agent of the Pals she was neither a friend to Israel or to America. She should be remembered for what she was a misguided dead protestor.
Way to go! Interesting how anyone anti-semitic and anti-Israel is automatically labeled "progressive" ...
you are useless. those who remember Rachel Corrie will continue her work and will keep her memory alive and they know and the story of her murder testifies to the truth, not to the propaganda that you and your ilk use as an atttempt to cover. Useless to try. You've already lost.
Then why not boycotting other products such like Microsoft cellphones laptops there is so much more I can go on
Writing a line of code for an application doesn't make the whole product Israeli, pathetic argument showing just how desperate Israel is becoming
Propaganda over dramatizes emotionally a particular side in a particular conflict and anything else becomes minimal and explained away logically. How dear you boycott a country because u think it commits some wrongs! Anyone who a real pity is does not reject offer after offer. Last time I checked, the Palestinians again rejected the latest peace offer. Whether right or wrong it certainly tells you they not such big pities are. Nobody had any demands in Auschwitz for release. Anit Semitism changing now to anti-Isrealinizm. Shame on you Olympia Food!!!
Will this also be widened to include medical and biotech advances, computer chips, software, irrigation technologies, diamond manufacturing, defence technologies etc etc. Pretty much touches all walks of life. Pathetic attempt by a retailer.
of Israel. The world is big enough to pick up the slack. Believe me the world does not buy the hasbara that Israel is indispensable...for its not. The world got along before Israel was created and it can move on when Israel's boycott is in full bloom.
and if applied by Israel against the United Kingdom would be really funny. Writing a line of code, or the fact that the inventor is Jewish does not make that invention Israeli.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saeky9I5T9c&feature=geo
They actually sell "Organic Turkish Aprocots"!!!!! Did they ever hear of the Armenian Genocide that the Turks so conveniently suppressed? or of the Kurds that are being massacred on a daily basis.
the coop also has a boycott against china but carry 13 Chinese products. yes hipocrites!! The vote for the boycott by the board was done on the quiet.Way to go Coop!!!
about the vote for the boycott. Something that no respected press has carried, but that racist/Kahanists are claiming. So what is your source of this claim? You forgot to post the reference. I am sure you will go back and do this and it will give us the link to a Reuters or UPS or similar report?
all the rest is just an irretent.
Whatever that is, I would say what happens in Israel is pretty important too. Or are you wating for a Second Coming in the White Houise to exonerate Israeli crimes against humanity?
You might not buy a new bulldozer each and every year but this company is also selling "trendy" boots. I wonder if the owners of these "fancy " shoes know what they are supporting. Besides the house demolitions in the occupied territories these bulldozers do their "duty" in the destruction of the rainforrests. If you are already owner of a pair, make up your mind to which person you may adress them by the next occasion - remeber Bush and the shoe incident ;-)
Send note that you are boycotting the Olympia Coop to: customerservice@olympiafood.coop Why are you only boycotting Israel? What about the Congo? (That government supplies you with the material needed to make your cellphone. Over 600,000 have been killed) Sudan (They have killed 600,000 in Darfur) Hamas in the Gaza? (They fired 7000 missles into Israel) Turkey? (They just killed a group of Kurds! Turkey occupies Cyprus!) Iran? (they stone women and kill LGBTQ commmunity members). Also, since you are so self righteous--may I suggest that you start packing and get off the the land where you are growing your food. That land belongs to the Native Americans. Go back to where you came from! As a supporter of Israel, I will see to it that none of us support your antisemitic "acting out".
and you won't be able to suppress it. You better start sending email to Israel''s government and tell it to start respecting international law and get out of occupied Palestine. If you want to stop the BDS movement, then this is the only way forward. Btw, your whatabout, whatabout, whatabout arguments are utterly pathetic.
In case you missed the memo, Israel withdrew from Gaza and all that accomplished was the election of a terrorist government and thousands of rockets launched on Israeli citizens.
to boycott Congo, etc., you would have clearly seen their policy on boycotts, and what information they require to evaluate any request for them to boycott any products. In case you want to really request additonal boycotts, all you need to do is follow their procedure and produce the documentation for the five areas they require. Their page that contains the info on their policy and procedure and requirements for a boycott is: http://olympiafood.coop/boycott
"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone." Alas, there is no one here that can truthfully says that they are not living in a country that has commited attrocities far worse than Israel. Quite sad to see Americans boycotting Israel and not protesting against the massacres in Iraq, Afghanistan, commited by their own government and people. All you two faced people have to look deep inside yourself and wonder why Israel is at the top of your agenda when there are many other more worthy and plausible causes. Citizens of Turkey, Iran, Saudi Arabia, USA, Canada, U.K., Germany,etc. should keep their mouths shut.
because of the massacres in Iraq, Afghanistan committed by the American Government. See what I did there? Israelis and Israel firsters expect that Israel be allowed to behave exactly how it wants without any consequences. Then when there are consequences they scream not fair and point to regimes in Sudan, Iran and the Congo saying what they do makes what we do alright.
That is why Israel does not boycott. We are aware that we are not perfect but at least we are not hypocrites. The point I was making is that there is so much going on in the world yet people choose to boycott Israel. The CO-OP is run by americans yet they choose not to boycott US products for what they are doing in Afghanistan and Iraq. I wanted to highlight the hypocrisy here but you did not see that.
The reason israel does not boycott is because its too dependent on the world for survival.
It is not Israeli government policy to fight for the restoration of land to the indigenous people in the United States. If it was you'd have a point
Friends of Israel! Boycott anyone who boycotts Israel and let them know that they will pay dearly for their antisemitic "acting out". Why doesn't Olympia boycott the Congo? China? Sudan? Iran? Why only Israel? Uber-Liberalism has inherited the banner of antisemitism, disguised in "special" treatment of Israel.
Interesting argument because The Congo, China, Sudan and Iran do it. Then Israel should be allowed to abuse human rights as well. The difference being of course none of the countries you use as an example have declared that they are a light unto the nations and the only western styled democracy in the middle east Although Iran, Sudan and The Congo are subject to sanctions which finds your argument even harder to understand..
Boycotting Israel is antisemitic? Wow I thought it was just a protest move to show how a group of people disagreed with the actions of the government. Jackass!
... hurting-the-pocket could be useful strategy, especially if the source of the goods is settlements sitting squarely on Pal territory...
for Israel accepting rockets without retaliation? For the Palastiniens to reject another offer to talk? For Israel's disappearence? Speek up false Esther? How many ugly depressed bitches are there that vent their lonlyness into finding a cool cause of eliminating a country. You are sooo not cool!
and the Pals are not as beggars they say thank you w/ rockets and the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers. RELEASE SHALIT!!!
All of Israel sits on Palestinian territory. Jewish ownership of land in mandatory Palestine during the proposed partition in 1947 was less than 8%. Arafat was willing to make do with 22%. Could have been a bargain. Now it is too late for compromise. What a wastw!!!!
If you must resort to name calling your arguments must be seriously lacking. Try sticking to the subject at hand instead of ad hominem comments. They are most unbecoming.
wouldn't be so terrific without the 5 billion USD in yearly aid to israel (grants, loan forgiveness and loan guarantees). and that's just governmental aid
Moral imperatives my foot!
I think seeing the boycotts realizing against one country can be a crime deterrent for others.
Matter of preference I suspect and there is certainly nothing wrong with their choice.
where?
main thing, israel is bashed. nothing else matters.
The coop called for a membership vote to see if we ,the members of the coop, wanted to carry sugar in the store.On the question of boycotting Israeli products, There was not even a member forum before the vote let alone a membership vote. Hipocrites to the core!!!!
Moral imperatives my foot!
Um, the Olympia Food Co-op does boycott China.
The Chinese and Arabs don't claim that they are a democracy nor do they claim that have a very moral army!! On the other hand Israel projects itself as a victim, peacelover, and attributes all righteous characterestics to itself while it acts exactly contrary to them... Suffice to say: Your deeds should prove your words and intentions
What would you say if the Co-Op wanted to boycott Jews? Fair enough to boycott Chinese goods, for example, in protest of what is happening in Tibet. Similarly, Co-Op can boycott Israel or other states in protest of its actions and policies, but it would be clearly racist to identify one racial group and boycott them. Countries yes, racial groups no.
Have the victioms of those countries ever tried to destroy those countries? Have they ever chosen genocide over statehood and their own country? Do they have a genocidal charter? The Pals have,the trouble is the elites are in denial,a group think speciality.
Yep you have definitely come to the end of the road pertaining your arguments. To totally ignore the events in Tianamen Square, and the fact that there is no opposition in the Chinese Parliament to then demand evidence that China is a one party state. You couldn't make it up.
Hypocrites!!!!
Turkish Products. Hypocrites!!!!
Note he has gone to ground as do many here who make a claim about Israel then duck for cover when challenged
Note he has gone to ground as do many here who make a claim about Israel then duck for cover when challenged
Its time for israil to recognize and hear the voice of the free world who discovered its 62 years old LIE. People of the UNITED STATES say NO
Dude, why don't you Turks stop lying and recognize the Armenian genocide? Hmmmmmm.
the Kurdish people that you opress? With state sponsored fear and terrorism Turkey has been able to hide the suffering of the Kurdish people. SUch hypocrisy!
What lie would that be? EVERY nation has a right to self-determination, - Palestinians AND Jews.
...have a booming economy, thanks to mr. netanyahu's "economic peace"-plan?
if they have the money, but they still cannot import cement to rebuild their shattered infrastructure. They still cannot export their goods to the outside world in order to support themselves, and must be supported by international charity. Bibi may have removed a few roadblocks most Palestinians still must exist on the 40% of the West Bank that Israel does not occupy with only whatever water Israel allows them.
these idiots forget that many palestinians work in israeli agriculture which maintains their jobs and feeds their families. the so-called human right activists do not want to boycott china which is the main human rights offender in the world. and they still pay for gas from saudi arabia. would be a bit inconvenient to boycott these countries. these hypocrites are ridiculous i like israeli produce and am always glad to see plenty of it in all big supermarkets and customers like buying it
Hands off Israel
I guess this narrow minded people have forgotten when these wonderful Palestinians handed out sweets and danced on the street after 9-11.
I assume you simply forgot to mention the 5 dancing Israelis that were arrested on 911 that according to their own words came to document the events
According to the resolution passes by the coop board the boycott will end when the following happens : 1. Ending it's occupation and colonization of all Arab lands and dismantling the wall. ???? There are no preconditions to these demands!! Shows you where the board stands. Not for peace in my view.And definitely not interested in due process.
You fully immersed in that river in Egypt denial? Just type five dancing israelis into any search engine or popular video sharing website. They even turned up on Israeli telly saying they were there to document the event. All failed the lie detector test as well.
But, Palestinians don't receive "due process", they don't even have access to a lawyer and are tried and convicted by military courts. All Pals living in the Occupied Territories live under martial law--not civil law like Israeli's have the luxury of. Please, don't even say "due process". The Olympia co-op has the right idea and is taking the right tact, non-violent resistance against a country and a people that should know better! Israelis know from personal experience that putting minorities in ghettos and stealing land is wrong, but you all do it anyway. Wake up Israel and join the 21st century!
Stop with the nonsense, worn out slogan about Israel is the only democracy in the region. Ethnic cleansing during the war of 1948 was carried by the state of Israel against the Arab Palestinians, and then the Israeli government passed a law forbidding them from coming back to their homes. Since 42 ago the Palestinian are living under Israel’s army occupation, do you call this democracy. Wake up and smell the coffee
The Arab states refused the 1947 partition plan & called for the local Arab polulation in Palestine to leave so they could do an ethnic cleansing of Jews. Their plan did not work and they lost the 1948 war. I do not justify holding the the Palestinians in camps but they can first of all thank their berthern for that : Joran, lebanon Syria... we basicly inherited the problem and are not the origin
The Arab states refused the 1947 partition plan & called for the local Arab polulation in Palestine to leave so they could do an ethnic cleansing of Jews. Their plan did not work and they lost the 1948 war. I do not justify holding the the Palestinians in camps but they can first of all thank their berthern for that : Joran, lebanon Syria... we basicly inherited the problem and are not the origin
Where did you find you information? In 1948 there was an all about bloody war. Jews were driven out of their homes in what later became Jordanian controlled territory, just as some Arabs lost their homes. But, that's a fact never mentioned. As to "ethnic cleansing," I seriously suggest you stop using that phrase so glibly... it is a serious allegation that will come back to bite you when the acts of mass murder and slaughter by Arab forces in 1948-1949 are also investigated.
"The Arab states .....called for the local Arab polulation in Palestine to leave ..." If you're into this kind of propaganda why not use "A land without people for a people without land" ... that on is a cracker
20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs.How many jews are left in Arab countries??
Wow Ezra, the people on this thread need to restudy history.
was a declaration of ownership for both sides. The Arabs didn't take ownership. What the Jews took was just as much theirs by right of the 22 San Remon conference. They didn't steal any land. They acquired land offered to the Arabs, that the Arabs refused. So such it.,
Well over a half million that illegally settled in E. Jerusalem, W. bank, and Golan Heights. Additionally, there are about 30,000 Jews in Iran and smaller, but significan numbers in many other Arab countries.
the jewish pro-israel group doesn't allow 2 sides of the issue, just theirs, not only that, the pro-israel group is helping to pass laws that can gaol anyopne speaking up against israel and anyone opposed to it's acts.
the jewish pro-israel group doesn't allow 2 sides of the issue, just theirs, not only that, the pro-israel group is helping to pass laws that can gaol anyopne speaking up against israel and anyone opposed to it's acts.
There are many Americans that are firmly against the racist policies of the Israeli state. The recent loyalty oath shows just how far you're willing to go. I hope the boycott spreads. I plan to not purchase any Israeli products and will pressure my Congressmen to vote against aid to Israel until Israel stops it's ethnic cleansing, both within Israel, Jerusalem, and the West Bank.
do u people stand up "for human rights", when it comes to china, turkey or arab states? do u boycott chinese, egyptian, turkish products? are you also against the american aid for racist egypt? do u boycott oil from saudi arabia? inconvebni egypt egypt?
It sounds like Mike is confusing some rather very different things. He also thinks he is against "ethnic cleansing", in which case he has a lot of boycotting to do -- and not just of most of Middle Eastern countries, either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcHwyW9xOyI&feature=PlayList&p=9D41BBCCD4B480B6&playnext
Boycott the Arab racism that doesn't allow Christians to carry a Bible in public (Saudi Arabia) or the Arab countries that ethnically cleansed close to a million Jewish citizens from their countries. BTW, if you aren't a hypocrite, you'll refuse to use Intel processors from the 486MMX onwards, third generation cell phones, Windows XP, Vista or 7, MS Office, instant messenger programs and the Aladdin anti-virus program. All of the above were developed in Israel. Do you think the US pledge of allegience recited every morning in public schools isn't a loyalty oath? You enjoy the benfits of CT, PET and MRI scans, all of which were either developed or refined in Israel. Will you stop using those as well? Somehow I doubt it. What you advocate has a name: it's called hypocrisy.
Why looking to other countries, this problem exists already more than 60 years.
yes we do boycott others. it's just that the media don't care.
What is your point? In fact, I have never bought a Saudi product. I believe over 90% of North American oil is from North and South America.
Alon, the argument is that there is countries less humane which you don't boycutt. Where the immorality in that statement?
democracy in the Middle East. Well there is standards that go along with that label. Now please let Israel honor those very same standards by giving the Palestinians justice. Israel the world is keeping their eye on you for this has gone on way to long for the world's liking.
Why didn't you say, didn't realise you want Israel compared with Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Sudan etc. Because I am sure yesterday you were saying that Israel is the only democracy in the middle east. Can you make your mind up because it is an important point. If Israel is a democracy then it can be criticised, if Israel is not a democracy it can be criticised.
The pledge of allegiance is not a loyalty oath. It is voluntarily recited, even by school children. No one is forced to say it. There is no punishment for not saying it. It contains the phrase, 'under god', but specifies no religion.
Look up the word "allegiance" in any dictionary. Here's what dictionary.com says: "The loyalty of a citizen to his or her government or of a subject to his or her sovereign." Therefore, the "Pledge of Allegiance" certainly is a loyalty oath, whether or not you understand that. I don't support the bill for a loyalty oath in Israel, simply because it would be as much of a farce as the "loyalty oath" people were forced to sign in the US during the McCarthy era--and just as useless. If a person wishes to harm the country he lives in, lying on a loyalty oath form is a small matter. I think the existing treason laws in Israel are sufficient--if they are properly enforced. BTW, what about the atheists and agnostics who have sued in several states to have the words "under God" removed from the pledge? I notice that's the only "issue" you have with my statements... and you're wrong about that one, too.
These folks probably do not mind selling stuff manufactured in all kinds of far away places, cheaply produced through slave labour. Israels PR has totally failed. The only ones keeping up the honor are regular tweeting and blogging citizens. This government best goes home, do the people a favor.
The propaganda worked well for years, presenting Israelis as victims in social democratic paradise in the desert, performing superbly in wars. Alas, the world has woken up to your criminal behaviour and no PR can save Israel. You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.
I would also like to join Israel in boycotting America for similar behavior.
I think Israel has to boycot US army material, thats better for the peace.
to a better country like Afganistan, Gaza,
Yeah John, they should move because they have a different opinion. Let freedom ring.
American government should end the relationships with Israel. We are tired of your lies...
U SHOULD GO ON THE STREETS OF IRAN,LEBANON, SYRIA, JORDAN, EGYPT,GAZA, WEST BANK, AND PROTEST AGAINST ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT THOSE PLACES ARE DOING AGAINST HUMAN RIGHTS. AND IF YOU SURVIVE OR WILL BE SEEN AGAIN I WILL PROTEST WITH YOU AGAINST ISRAEL. PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS..
The killing of civilians by drones.America has killed thousands of civilians by their drone warfare in Afghanistan. This boycott just like all the others are nothing but rabid hypocracy,by a bunch of people who have no idea about the situation in Israel or Gaza. Wow, Israel is defending itself,lets boycott Israel, they have no right to defend themselves against terror or anything else.
You are one 100% right all these poeple should live what the israeli peole live everyday< and go to the otherside and see for themselves what is going on. The arabs have perfected there ability on propaganda 1000 fold.
Your point being? The fact is it is not official Israeli government policy to boycott the US because of the drone strikes in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Besides which if you object to the drone strikes why are you using the WWW, thats a British invention run by the Americans.
Your posting does not make any sense,and to make things worse,there are 14 people who have given the thumbs up for nonsense posting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcHwyW9xOyI&feature=PlayList&p=9D41BBCCD4B480B6&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=9
companies that have plants in israel are not "israeli companies". why can't people understand this? is coca cola a chinese company because it has stores in china?
The Intel microprocessor was not invented by Israel, it was invented by a Japanese team in the 70s. All Windows systems were developed in America, although that's not a good thing. The firewall was invented by American company DEC. The cell phone was invented by a Swedish company. Camera phones--Japan. Quantum Link invented IMing well before 1996. The Red Cross, baby monitors... none of these things have anything to do with Israel! Did this guy just pick inventions out of a hat? Mastermind and Uzis I will give you. Somehow I doubt this group ever carried either of those things in their store, however.
lol, hypocrite. no they may not be "israeli companies" but they do have israeli's working for them IN israel. isn't the idea of your boycott to hurt israelis? by the way your example is false and I suggest you rewatch the link to better understand. an israeli did not invent coca cola so your example is incorrect. the clip talks about israeli inventions regardless of whether they OWN the company or not.
The following is a list of products invented in Israel and manufactured only in Israel: The electric lightbulb, the wheel, water, air, dogs, the sun, language.
were prosecuted and are still being banned. For example, SCNF, a French railway company that transported jews to the death camps, is unlikely to get a contract in California to build a high-speed railway. The lesson? Those who profit from the misery and exploiation of others (be they Jews or Pals) will eventually be called to account.
convenient, when you wanted to boycott Caterpillar thecompany location wasn't an issue. lol, no complaining from the left when Coke was boycotted from from August 1968 to May 1991 and correct they are not Israeli. So which is it? Do you boycott only israeli companies or also those that do business in Israel? Make up your mind already. Need some help? See the link again. convenient, when you wanted to boycott Caterpillar that wasn't an issue. lol, no complaining from the left when Coke was boycotted from from August 1968 to May 1991 and correct they are not Israeli. So which is it? Do you boycott only israeli companies or also that do business in Israel? Make up your mind already. Need some help? See the link again.
No, ALL of these things have something to do with Israel. It is just unfortunate that your ideology doesn't allow you to see the positives of Israel. What do you think these companies are doing here anyways? Just throwing money away? Tell that to the Intel folks here at Kiryat Gat, Microsoft in Haifa, Samsung, google etc who all have R&D here in Israel. or better yet just see http://www.israel21c.org/ The question remains, are you boycotting Israeli companies or companies that are doing business with Israel. Get your lies straight before you answer.
where are you from? see where your clothing is made, china? Indonesia? slave labor? "Those who profit from the misery and exploiation of others (be they Jews or Pals) will eventually be called to account." You wrote it buddy not me.
ROFL, that about sums it all up.
Well, they better stop talking on their cell phones, using Windows, listening to their mp4s, watering their lawns and not take any highway that uses LPR. What a bunch of hypocrites. Boycott West Bank products like i do .
I don't support boycotts. I don't see their productivity. But my cell phone was made in Japan, not Israel and my water comes from the Snake River, not from Israel. And Windows was made in Washington State, as bad as it is. Windows Vista is nothing to be proud of.
"....a moral imperative that goes beyond any financial concern...." . May many more think likewise in the times ahead.
And extollers of Nazi supporter Knut Hamsun
You give kudos to a company that is lashing out in hurt out of the loss of their doughter, who did not understand that the leaders (HAMAS) rules, and at any price even the lives of their own people to get their objective the destruction of israel. money for rockets and weapons by the thousands. The poeple cant even speak out to any reporter or actavist or they will be called a collaborator and killed. That unfortunatly rachel corrie died for the wrong cause.
Suicide bombings, rockets fall under international law that's why we will buy from Plestinians.
and after the election murder hundreds from the opposing party. That's the UN style.
I hate to say it but thier entire POS system was designed by Israelis and according to figuars they will loose a majority of thier Christian customers also meaning something like 80% of thier business. Who are all more then happy to chip stores. ;) Enjoy....
...how much beer do chrispian customers drink...two boxes a week ?
Most regular christians don't care either way about Israel.
Exactly how many members do they have? Were they selling any Israeli goods? Except for kosher products I don't remember seeing any Israeli food products for sale in the states. Are they boycotting any other countries or just the only country in the region that is a true democracy, does not discriminate against women or gays and enjoys freedom of press?
let them have only one for now, tomo will have 1000. it is not about number. it all about the priciples. I forget that Israeli thinks only about Money??
let them have only one for now, tomo will have 1000. it is not about number. it all about the priciples. I forget that Israeli thinks only about Money??
or makes women sit at the back of the bus or is trying to implement laws calling for Non Jews to swear loyalty to "The Jewish State". You cannot have a State that is both Democratic and Jewish. Try just the Israeli State.
certain shops in oz land have boycotted israeli products, a lebanese friend loves the salep made in israel, but then he along with many boycotted your products, he'd rather do without drinking it than live with innocent women and children being massacred.
In fact your hatred for the indigenous peoples tops the world's list as one of the most maligned societies.
that boycotting goes on. Israel puts itself as the only democracy in the Middle East. Well this boycott and many more like it reminds supporters of Israel that we take that claim serious. Remember when you pronounce yourself as a western style democracy your suppose to act like one. What Israel does to the Palestinians warrents as many boycotts needed to curb its human rights violations. Other countries that have human rights violations don't claim to be western style democracies like Israel claims.
Let's see them organize a boycott against China for it's treatment of the Tibetians. They will be left with very little in the stores. It's interesting how these boycott organizers conveniently leave out bigger countries with worse rights records. Why? They afraid the countries won't take it lying low like Israel?
this is the same country that bans gay marriage within the country and does not allow women to read torah at the wall yes? what a welcoming country. why do you compare israel to its neighbors to look good? i thought it was supposed to be a "western state"?
i would suggest that you research the washington coop before making such blanket statements.
Why don't they boycott the goods of a country that sends hundreds of thousands of troops halfway around the world to destroy 2 countries and kill tens of thousands of innocent civilians: the good ole USA.
When I spit on the face of a criminal, I do not hurt him physically,but I prove his nasty. Boycotting israili products will not destroy israil, but it is the best way to show contempt for its practices.
The antisemitism is quite apparent here, no doubt brought on by the description of Israel being a democracy. These people hate the idea of democracy and as such hate Jews and love their enemies - the totalitarian Islamic psychopaths, under whose reign they would be able to shed their unwanted selves. They are essentially nihilistic communists, the most pathetic human beings on earth.
Your ignorance of the situation in the Middle East is only topped by your ignorance of the English language. Look up the word "maligned" and you will see that yes, Israel does indeed top the world's list of slandered and ill-spoken of countries thanks to people like you, though I don't think that was the point you were trying to make.
talk about psychopaths...
Anat Hoffman was detained and questioned for five hours and then released. One Woman. I agree it's pathetic, but it wasn't 99 lashes followed by 4 years imprisonment and then stoning to death for an affair. You attempt to make comparisons between Israel and those countries who have persecuted, raped and murdered their OWN people in the MILLIONS and continue to do so with your blessing. Nigeria, Yemen, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Somalia, Pakistan, East Timor, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran and Sudan..IN THE MILLIONS, and you say NOTHING, ZILCH, GORNISHT . Now that to me is a real Hypocrite. You're just a Jew hater, simply a small time ineffectual Racist.
STONING OF WOMEN? REAL PROGRESS THERE DUDE.
Idiot
Your right, when mexico starts to have terrorists and wants california which will start blowing up things launch mortars and thousands of rockets, from civilain locations and the great USA responds or i think you should just leave. RIGHT.
Remember no one forced you to say your the only democracy in the Middle East, Israel did. You want the label?? With your pronounment comes a higher standard of conduct. Get over it and start treating the Palestinians with a little more respect and they will get off Israel's back.
Hmm... why is it that the Palestinians under the leadership of the great and immortal Arafat (who managed to use terror to slaughter citizens of many western countries) rejected an Israel proposal to hand over 93% of the West Bank and to assist with setting up a viabe Palestinian state? BTW - do you know of any other democracy in the ME? Please enlighten me.
Israel supports by supreme court ruling rights for partners-gays or otherwise. Check out what happens to "outed" gays in the surrounding countries. Confeence of gays was held in Israel, gay pride parades, etc. Women can pray with the Torah and read the Torah at many congregations in Israel including my own Orthodox congregation in Jerusalem. No they cannot at the wal, and it is sad, but look at what women cannot do in Arab countries.
Sure we gave back 100% of those islands to the Japanese. WE also gave back 100% of the Philippines to the Filipinos. America occuppied those islands a few years less than Israel has occuppied the West Bank. By the way why only 93% of the West Bank>>? Why not 100% and one solid country they can call theirs. Stop with the hasbara. Heard it before and everytime I see it in text it gets stale and rotten.
The Iranian attitude to Gay people is ground breaking. They would like nothing better than to have as many Gay people in their society as possible. Trouble is, there are no Gays in Iran.
Logic don't write code for anti-semitism! Keep the stereotypes to yourself if you cant get rid of them.
California was stolen from Mexico in 1848 at the end of a war that was started by the USA specifically for that purpose.
the US will not go to war with Mexico. They will target the terrorists, not the whole country. Big difference.
How can you compare the returning of Japanese land after WWII to the situation in the West Bana and Gaza? Were they endangering the USA? Were they shooting rockets from the Pacific Islands into New York or LA? Have you ever looked at a map of the Middle East - Israel will reach an agreement with the Palestinians which will GUARANTEE our security. We cannot afford to make any mistakes. The USA has never been in danger from anyone so how can they understand our situation? They are still bombing the shit out of innocents in Iraq and Afghanistan but they are Protecting themselves! What a sad joke.,
How dare you speak like that. You wonder why you are so detested around the world. Look at the way you treat the Pals as less than dogs, continue to steal their land, murder anyone who fights back, call yourself a "democracy," when in reality, you keep siphoning the rights that you claim the Arabs in Israel enjoy, and then, to top it all off, have the audacity to get upset when the world calls you out on it all, and takes action. The sheer nerve of you, and all others like you, is appalling!
really this is your defence for slauthering the palistinians because you are a democracy WOOOOOOOW YOU ARE REALLY TOO MUCH
Thousands. Where is the outrage? Where is the boycott?
Depends how decadent you want a country to go,I have always had a very warm welcome when I go to Israel,why don't you try it,you will be very pleased I can assure you.Israel is not the monster country that everybody would like you to beleive.
The mexicans will love it.
Mexico was a European colony setup by the Spanish. France was involved somewhere in this mess. The key thing here is letting the indigenous peoples assimilate and extend full citizenship with equal rights and justice under the law. Clearly, something the Zionist State has a problem with. I seriously doubt that any of the indigenous peoples of California would like to rejoin the violent state to the South.
What about the woman who was arrested recently at the western wall for carrying the Torah?
you should not use your i phone i pad or i whatso ever because there is israeli components inside arabs must recognize Israel and Jerusalem as it s capital. then Israel will recognize Jordan as the palestinian state. Michel from Paris FRANCE
In your dreams!
Get off the Jordan is Palestine kick, the international community is not buying it. Better work things out and stop with the delussions of a " Greater Israel".
Michel you are delusional, the borders for Holy Land can be found in the Torah, its the only country in this world, that has such old borders, and defined by HaShem. Most christians who read the Old Testament don't get fooled by your delusions too.
International law does not repect what a book says the borders of a certain country should be. Not one that was written by old superstitious men thousands of years ago. I can write my book too and say my mortage is paid off and say some ice cream guy in the sky said its ok. Please don't text such nonsense for its comic relief for me.
International law does not repect what a book says the borders of a certain country should be. Not one that was written by old superstitious men thousands of years ago. I can write my book too and say my mortage is paid off and say some ice cream guy in the sky said its ok. Please don't text such nonsense for its comic relief for me.
grassroots nonviolent protests are one of the most effective tools that we have in boycotting the criminal actions of "western" states. i know that olympia also routinely refuses to buy from any place that participates in quasi-slave-labor, such as many farms in america that employ illegal immigrants at terrible wages. if only more companies could be like this, the world would be a better place.
There are two laws in the United States that make it illegal.
Hope the boycott spreads. It''l bring attention to the oppression policies of a racist state.
You are in for a surprise. As long as these people are not carrying out the policy for a foreign entity then it is not illegal. Why do you post untruths.
is these people will not go to jail....its a co-op..pay attention
It's protected under freedom of expression--the government can't penalize anyone for not buying certain products, even American products.
A handy guide on divestment from the evil Jewish State, with some key tips and points you won't find anywhere else! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcHwyW9xOyI&feature=PlayList&p=9D41BBCCD4B480B6&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=9
LOL, if you were to believe that, then Israel invented everything, but you just keep telling yourself how Israel invented the Intel chip if thats what it takes to make you sleep better at night, again, LOL
It's interesting how my comment on how to HELP people boycott Israel rcvd 5 thumbs down. Hmmmm. Maybe it's because if they really wanted to boycott Israel it would inconvenience their lives.
Hey Oz, if you are going to boycott then boycott. Don't be a hypocrite. lol, based on your answer you think nothing that you use was invented in israel but you are wrong. The cell phone was developed in Israel by Motorola, which has its largest development center in Israel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_inventions_and_discoveries Most of the Windows NT operating system was developed by Microsoft-Israel. The Pentium MMX Chip technology was designed in Israel at Intel. Voice mail technology was developed in Israel.
If Im not mistaken, the first acts of terrorism in history were invented by the zealots too. And Im guessing, air, trees, mountains, water, food, meat, cooking, nail clippers are all israeli inventions too...you are literally airborne, you know that? Also, who is going to believe you if you are even dishonest about something so obvious as your youtube posts!
Since 1999 I look closely at every label and just put it back if it is made in Israel - There are thousands of us who has been boycotting Israeli products for years. I hope and pray thousands turn into hundreds of Millions.
shows how narrow minded somepeople are, they should boycott all USA company products that do not try and help give the USA back to the USA Indians, all Chinese products etc....and hey GAZA does NOT recognise ISRAEL. Students around the world have been influenced by Arab propaganda against Israel. I am a student in Europe and see it daily
And do Israeli recognise Palestinian state????. israel broughted to itself. More land grap, more killing of Palestinians and u want the world to stay silence
the indians out of America, zionist did out of what is Israel in 1948 and 1967...Indians have the ability to buy back all that land that was stolen from them if they have the money. Can the Palestinians who were ethnically cleansed into surrounding countries have that abilty to get their land back by paying for it. Oh yes I know Jews were ethnically cleansed from many arab countries, but if the Palestinians were not ethically cleansed first the Jews in arab lands would still be where they are. Its called cause and effect.
And do Lebanon recognise Israeli state??? Arab League broughted widespread misery to itself. More ethnic cleansing, apartheid, widespread murder, and u r happy the world stays silence.
So why are there so many Arabs in Haifa, Jerusalem, W.Bank. How many native Americans did the American settlers slaughter when they conquered America? And tell me, even if they had the money, how would they buy back Manhattan when you have such a large settlement on it?
The period of European expansion to the New World is the most widespread ethnic cleansing in human history. Over 300 million people were slaughtered in the name of Manifest Destiny, and the reason you clearly don't know about it is because of the rewriting of American history to exclude it. All Western nations are hypocrites on this issue, and why they should be engaging Israel to assist in finding a solution rather than backing them in to a corner and wondering why they keep failing.
Your statement. Think about it. They can BUY BACK land that was STOLEN FROM THEM. Thank you for making me laugh.
"Indians have the ability to buy back all that land that was stolen from them if they have the money." And this crap gets printed.
most indians are DEAD.! murdered, raped and destroyed by smallpox.How could they bye back the land????Please take off your blinders and read history!!!!!
American history is indeed inglorious at times but nobody mandated them into existence. Capiche?
The Americans did it so its okay for Israel to do it??
and they have...something the Palestinians in other lands don't have a right to. Good job diverting, but the question begs to be answered.....They can't get into the country to buy the land..at least the Indians can try.
recognize what where is your currency.what goverment did u have. amazing isnt it.THE TRUTH IS THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE HAVE NO SAY THEY ARE COUGHT BETWWEN A HELL BENT GOVERMENT THAT DOES NOT WANT PEACE AND ONLY GOAL IS TO DESTROY ISRAEL.
Capice? Not really. No. What do you mean by "nobody mandated them into existence?"
Please stop. You're too much.
It's not ok for the Americans to preach to us when they're history is 100 times worse than ours. Give the conquered lands back to the natives and Mexico, then come tell us how to act.
Hey the world is not going to accept your delussion that the Palestinains in the West Bank trying to destroy Israel. No one is buying your paranoia anymore. Either you give what the Palestinians deserve, or Israel will experience more boycotts.....it happened to South Africa,.....its going to happen to Israel.
We did not ethnically cleanse the mexicans after the mexican american war. They got to keep their lands and became americans citizens. This was in 1848....It is now 2010 and again when are you going to allow the Palestinians into Israel to buy back their property. We let the Mexicans stay and keep their property.....how come Israel did not do the same. Take a coarse in United States History. Oh by the way there was no United Nations resolution 194 around in the 19th century....there was when you did not allow the Palestinians to come back to their homes.
against the indians, but that was a long time ago. sensibilities/mores have advanced since then. You Israelis and your apologists are like little children seeking to escape punishment by pointing to the wrongdoings of others. And it ain't gonna work
It's not too late to give California and the Southwest back to Mexico, and Washington state back to the native Americans
The expropriation of native american (Indian) land is still happening, especially in South America by American companies however that doesn't mean its right to do it in other places-"an injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere". Instead of a boycott-why not support the cottage industries of Gaza? We have to keep the hope of peace alive-I'm here in NJ, USA its a place where Jews, Arabs, etc all seem to get along, work and go to school together-so why not everywhere?
From day 1 the Arab/Moslem neighbors had made life miserable for the Israelis. Jordon and Egypt, the 2 countries that ruled over the Palestinians gave up that chore for peace agreements. The sensibilities/mores should be pushed onto all sides...not just Israel.
My heart really goes out to the people of Gaza and I'm sure it's not easy to get goods out-hopefully this will be resolved soon. The world will put pressure on Israel to open up Gaza (and rockets coming from there will only hurt that campaign). The Irish people have a memory of oppression that makes us sympathetic to the Gaza situation. Christians are not anti-semetic if anything we look to Israel as our holy-land too. So if it is the holy-land to Jews, Christians and Muslims then shouldn't everyone's behavior there be held to the highest standards of respect, compassion and civil rights? I think-both sides need to "take it down a notch" stop reacting, and start laying the groundwork for a better society-like Jesus said "some seeds were planted sand and they withered and died, some fell on fertile ground" The seed is faith-and taking violent means whether through terrorism or the military is not showing faith-its just relying on egotism, its really fear-based.
Since the current situation is colored by the past, often a past that is seen so differently-there should be a conference in which scholarly papers are presented to get to the truth-and then maybe there can be some healing and things can move forward-also the boundaries of "self-defense" have to be defined (for all players), and obviously overtly racist policies should be eliminated.
well, i think many of us are a little more sympathetic towards the Arabs/Moslems because Western powers took it upon themselves to carve up Arab land and give it to the Jews because of what happened in Europe (holocaust). Myself, I'm glad the Jews have a homeland, I really am, but they MUST go back to '67 borders, share Jerusalem and pay some symbolic right-of-return compensation. If arabs attack after that, Israel would have my support
People are just tired of the way Israelis can murder anyone with no punishment, because of the Holocaust.
Do you have to be so balanced? This is comment via email on a political posting site. Your'e meant to condemn, make false accusations, ignore fact, & write vitriol - how dare you. But to say both sides need to change? This simply won't do. Mind you the Irish have got it wrong too many times too!!
No,no, no. The Americans did it because the Ottoman Empire did it, not low key a mile and a half here and there, but on an EPIC scale, much like the Greeks, The Romans, the French, The Spanish, The British. Great ehh. How else do you think we all got rich? Through personal endurance and hard work?